What's on this floor?

Cathi
by Cathi
After spending most of today tearing up the floor in our back entrance (multiple layers of tile and particle board) I came across this paper substance under the last layer of tile. It's stuck down pretty well and would take quite a bit of work to scrape it all off. What is it? Is this a vapor barrier or something?
What is this paper substance?
  12 answers
  • Treasuredchaos.com Treasuredchaos.com on Dec 27, 2015
    I have this too, under both linoleum and leuon....I would like to know if it's something other than thick glue, too! I thought it was the fabric backing of the linoleum but it's under the leuon, too! Can't wait til someone identifies it for you (us)!
  • Janet Pizaro Janet Pizaro on Dec 27, 2015
    It appears to be a vinyl adhesive that was put down prior to the tile. Try using a steam mop to aid in lifting it off. Once it is soft enough use a good floor scraper.It is recommended to make sure all of this is removed should the tiles have had abstestos in them
  • Amy Lauzon Amy Lauzon on Dec 27, 2015
    I think it might be tar paper, it was commonly used as an underlayment prior to plywood.
  • Bebe Pitts Bebe Pitts on Dec 27, 2015
    Tarpaper???
  • Sam Corlis Sam Corlis on Dec 27, 2015
    It's not uncommon for linoleum and/or carpet padding to leave behind this material after a long time stuck to the wood floor, especially if there is any moisture involved, i.e. spills, leaks, shampooing, whatever. The best way to remove it, as far as I'm concerned, is to get a good stiff paint scraper and scrape it off . Whatever method you choose will require some "elbow grease". Once the floor is scraped, it can be vacuumed with a decent shop vac and the floor can then be either sanded or scrubbed, using a cleaner meant for wood, like Murphy's Oil Soap. Just don't let the wood get soaked or the grain will raise and it's not easy getting it smooth again.
  • Cathi Cathi on Dec 27, 2015
    Since my home is over 114 years old, I don't want to take chances with asbestos, so I'll be purchasing 1/4" plywood to cover the floor before tiling it.
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    • Cathi Cathi on Oct 27, 2016
      Treasuredchaos, after much consideration, I decided to restore the floor instead of cover it. Here's a photo of my end result. It was hard on these old bones, but well worth it!
  • MN Mom MN Mom on Dec 27, 2015
    I agree, Cathi. Better safe than sorry not knowing if asbestos was present. I wouldn't steam it or try removing it unless you know for certain there is no asbestos involved.
  • Brn2714373 Brn2714373 on Dec 28, 2015
    ohhh ok thanks!
  • Clyde Stewart Clyde Stewart on Apr 22, 2016
    The first house we owned had tar paper under the kitchen vinyl flooring. We used hot wet towels to soak the tar paper and putty knife to scrap it up. Worked great.
  • Cathi Cathi on Apr 23, 2016
    Clyde, that's just what I did. It took me a month of weekends to get it all done, but it's finally finished. Here's a picture of the end product. Now to address the walls, cabinets and baseboards!
  • Cheryl Cheryl on Aug 06, 2016
    Looks like it could have been the leftover remnants of the foam like backing if indoor/ outdoor carpet that had been glued down, then half-assed removed. Had this problem in a previous house, and it took a lot of elbow grease to gently scrape and sand to remove.
  • Brn9882410 Brn9882410 on Oct 27, 2016
    It's tar paper I think they used to use it to insulate between the the subfloor and the top layer. I removed this once by soaking it in ammonia and scrubbing it off. Use good ventilation and a mask but it did come off.
    • Cathi Cathi on Oct 27, 2016
      I have finished with this floor, but I have many more to go. Here's the "after" picture. This is my back entryway. It was a TON of work, but I'm please with the end result.