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Joel K Saint Paul, MN on Apr 16, 2012
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Straw Bale Gardening, great in all climates from the Arctic to the Caribbean islands!

Straw Bale Gardening is essentially container gardening, without the cost of a container or the planting mix to fill it. Just buy a bale of straw, go through the "conditioning" process and plant, then water, then harvest, it is about that simple. Get the full details at www.strawbalegardens.com
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    No weeding, raised beds make access easier, tomato plants love this method of gardening. Great for potatoes also, no digging! Anything that grows in th...
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    Early in the season, make the straw bales into a greenhouse, the "conditioning" of the bale below emits lots of heat during the process which warms the root...
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    Planting annuals in the sides also makes the garden look attractive as well as productive.
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    Direct seeding into a seedbed of sterile Planting Mix on the surface of the bales. These seedlings grow rapidly due to the extra warmth from the decomposi...
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  • Sherrie S Debary, FL
    Gloria K, you got the answer from Jan M. How thoughful of Jan M. That's why we are here on Hometalk. We help each other.
    on Apr 26, 2012 · Like 1
  • Ken H Orlando, FL
    Gloria, Here is a re-post I put up here on my page:

    Here is a great post and website from the University of Florida, Institute of Food and Agriculture Sciences and the Clay County Extension Service.

    http://clay.ifas.ufl.edu/documents/MG/Haybal...

    on Apr 27, 2012 · Like 1
  • Jan M Toledo, OR
    Gloria,

    1 Remember to place the bales so that the string is touching the ground and that the straw is running horizontal and not vertical. That way it retains the water better, 2. be sure you follow the aging process. Soak real well for a couple days and let the bales heat up for about 8 days. You will know it ready to plant when you can stick your hand down between the flakes of straw and its cool. ...»

    Follow Ken's instructions. http://clay.ifas.ufl.edu/documents/MG/Haybal...

    I never found it necessary to add the extras I just let it break down on its own and never had any problems.

    Good luck.

    Oh and when the oat straw starts to go to sprout, just trim it off like it was your lawn. It will stop sprouting shortly.

    Jan

    on Apr 27, 2012 · Like 0
  • Gloria K Little Falls, MN
    Jan M. What do you do for the aging process before you plant in 10 days..I got the bales Thanks to you...I soaked them down last evening, is their some fertilizer or something I need to put on it for the next 10 days or just water it down. Some one said to put 1/2 a cup of 37-0-0. Whatever that is. help me out...again please...you have all ready tried so your a pro..now please help this little old novice out.
    on Apr 27, 2012 · Like 0
  • Jan M Toledo, OR
    Gloria, I have a PDF file on it but can't seem to post it here. I can email it to you if you will contact me. at

    primitivejan@gmail.com

    on Apr 27, 2012 · Like 1
  • Jan M Toledo, OR
    Some photos from my first attempt . Not bad heh?

    I even planted sugar snap peas and herbs and tomatoes in one row.

    When you are planting seeds you need to add soil so that the seeds don't slip down through the straw. Not a lot, just enough to hold the seeds till they begin to root and attach themselves to the straw,

    • From my first crop
    • My first year with straw bale gardening
    • They were almost all like this. We love strawberries here and rhubarb pie. Even my lab loves them and I have to watch here in the garden as she goes after the biggest ones
    • She starts to drool when she sees them.
heheh
    on Apr 27, 2012 · Like 1
  • Jan M Toledo, OR
    I never added any amendments with the exception of a little manure but I found that with the strawberries I just got beautiful leaves and smaller berries. I never added any nitrogen but then to each his own.
    on Apr 27, 2012 · Like 1
  • Jan M Toledo, OR
    Gloria,

    I did all this except adding the ammonium Nitrate. You may not even be able to get that because its sort of like, bomb making ingredients and some places won't sell it to just anyone. But like I say I didn't add this. It is suppose to aid in breaking down the straw and start the decomposing to go faster. ...»

    Days 1–3: Water

    the bales thoroughly

    each day.

    Days 4–6:

    Sprinkle the bales

    with ½ cup of

    ammonium nitrate

    or sulphate (34-0-

    0) per bale per day

    and water it in.

    Days 7–9: Cut back to ¼ cup of the

    nitrate/sulphate per bale per day and

    continue to water it in.

    Day 10: No more nitrate/sulphate,

    but continue to keep the bales damp.

    Day 11: Transplant your veggies into

    the bales. Use a trowel to help make a

    crack in the bale for each plant. Place

    the plant down to its first leaf. I like

    adding some potting mix to chink the

    crack around the plant. Close the crack

    back together.

    How many plants per bale?

    Try 2 or 3 tomato plants, 3 peppers, 2

    sets of squash, up to 4 cucumber sets,

    and 3 or 4 okra plants per bale.

    Be prepared to stake or trellis any

    plant with a stalk. I recommend using

    a tall trellis for tomatoes. Tomatoes can

    easily get 8 feet tall.

    I don't recommend corn with this

    method. They will get too top heavy.

    Water the bales as needed but at least

    once a day in the beginning. Just don't

    let the bales get dried out.

    I recommend some sort of liquid

    fertilizer. I use liquid Miracle Gro as

    needed.

    The bales may start to sprout, but

    that is no problem. I give my bales a

    "haircut" every so often with a knife.

    I don't have nearly the worms, bugs,

    or other pests as a traditional garden,

    but use pesticides or fungicides as

    needed.

    At season's end you can use the bales

    for mulch, or bust them up and set

    new bales on them next year.

    For additional info and a lot more

    photos, please visit my online bale

    gardening thread at: www.4042.com/

    4042forums/showthread.php?t=12405

    on Apr 27, 2012 · Like 1
  • Gloria K Little Falls, MN
    Thanks Jan!!! I tried to find 34-0-0 amd could only find 46-0-0. So I need to check a few more stores out...they have 34-0-10...I just might keep them soaked and just use some good potting soil when it comes to the planting time...We have snow showers forcasted for tonight and tomorrow..ish!

    Thanks for all your help.

    on Apr 27, 2012 · Like 1
  • Jan M Toledo, OR
    I just spotted this great idea on FB

    It is for Straw Bale cold frames. I am thinking this would be a great idea and I may have to get a few more.

    Check this idea out

    http://ozarksalive.org/larrapin/?p=929

    on Apr 29, 2012 · Like 2
  • Gloria K Little Falls, MN
    Thanks Jan...Sounds interesting!!! I'm hoping my two bales that he had left gets me in gear and than I will buy some in the fall from him...Got my name on the list.
    on Apr 30, 2012 · Like 0
  • Jan M Toledo, OR
    This is the link as posted above

    Great use for old sliding doors or heavy windows so long as there are no children or dogs that may jump up onto the glass, When it is warmer out you can always prop the glass up allowing for more circulation inside the cold frame

    • Straw bale cold frame
    on Apr 30, 2012 · Like 3
  • Pat Anderson, SC
    Can straw bales be used to plant perenials? Bushes for instance.
    on Jun 06, 2012 · Like 0
  • Douglas Hunt New Smyrna Beach, FL
    Pat, I think you'd be lucky to get a couple of seasons out of straw bales. Perennials should be around much longer than that.
    on Jun 07, 2012 · Like 0
  • Jan M Toledo, OR
    I agree with Douglas, as my bales last me 2 years then towards the end of the season just before winter sets in, I buy my new bales and transplant my strawberries and any other plants that I have planted. I suppose some perennials could be planted in them keeping in mind that you would have to transplant them later. I would probably stick to the regular methods for perennials and plant them in the ground or in pots.

    Bushes definitely I would plant in the ground.

    on Jun 07, 2012 · Like 0
  • Elaine L Milton, FL
    Can the straw be used in the South....we have so much heat....harder here than it was in Maine.....any suggestions other than to move back to Maine....hehe
    on Jun 23, 2012 · Like 1
  • Douglas Hunt New Smyrna Beach, FL
    Indeed it can, Elaine, one of our first posts on Hometalk about straw bale gardening was from someone in Orlando.
    on Jun 24, 2012 · Like 1
  • Ken H Orlando, FL
    Elaine,

    Hi - I am in Orlando, FL and yes, you can grow awesome veggies and herbs in the straw bales down here - I planted my garden last fall and it is still producing - had to replant the tomatoes - frost got them - but still going strong - cabbage so big we had to share with the neighbors, same with the broccoli - had bowls and bowls of it. ...»

    Today I am going to harvest another load of green beans - the rain has gotten them so big and juicy looking - can't wait for dinner tonight.

    Look up my posts - have a few on straw bale gardens in Florida - including some pictures.

    on Jun 24, 2012 · Like 1
  • Aj K Las Vegas, NV
    that could work out here.
    on Jul 06, 2012 · Like 1
  • Rachel Shoemaker Tulsa, OK
    I buy mine in the fall for Halloween/fall decorations. I then use some as mulch after fall if needed. I save a few and drag them to the back yard and by spring they are "seasoned" for planting. At the end of summer they are pretty much done and what is left is spread around my beds. Then the cycle begins again. I would compost the bales at the end of the season but I have a very small yard and no room to compost so it becaomes mulch. Works great!
    on Aug 06, 2012 · Like 2
  • Trudie S Jesup, GA
    Is there a certain type of straw bales that you need . The local feed store sells hay bales, but i have seen (weeds) growing from the hay bales. Is there different (straw) bales that you should use?
    on Mar 08, 2013 · Like 1
  • Donna Dixson Buford, GA
    Sometimes places will sell a product that is really a 'mulch' bale and it a mixed bag of dried grassy stuff in it. I should be all wheat straw for best results.
    on Mar 08, 2013 · Like 0
  • Joel K Saint Paul, MN
    It is true that you should be careful about what you buy, clean wheat, oat, or barley straw works best, BUT many people do use hay bales as well, and they will work, but you should expect more weeds and a bit more "stinky" smell as they decompose. The hay actually will have more nitrogen content as it is higher in protein which breaks down into nitrogen as it conditions.
    • I stopped by my local Barnes & Noble yesterday and to my surprise I found "Straw Bale Gardens" on the spring table just inside the door.  It is now available nationwide, or from my website strawbalegardens.com if you want it signed!
    • I was very honored that B & N selected my book as only one of two from the Home and Hobby section to get premium placement on the spring table, but the book is also in the gardening section as well.  Makes a great gift!
    on Mar 08, 2013 · Like 3
  • Cora Sue West-Lawrence Fort Pierce, FL
    Great idea for small yards too!!
    on Apr 14, 2013 · Like 0
  • Lavella Walters Moberly, MO
    How about growing sweet potatoes in straw ?How many plants would you plant in one bale of straw?and how would you plant green beans would you plant them on the sides of the bales or just on top of the bales? I garden all the time in the soil but i would love to try this too.
    on Apr 23, 2013 · Like 1

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