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Linda G
Linda G Rhinebeck, NY on Jul 20, 2011
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Our current attic has a ridge vent and vented soffets.

We are installing central air and our air conditioning guy suggests that we add extra vents at the peak of the house to allow for more airflow. He says this will help the air conditioning run more effeciently by cooling down the attic. Is this true and will it create problems in the winter or create mold?
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  • Hudson Designs Loganville, GA
    Hello Linda,

    Rather than add more vents in the roof a gable fan that has Temp. and humility controller may work better. It will ventilates up to 2300 SF @ 1620 CFM and you can get a set of shutters for the out side.

    • Lowes    $105.00
    on Jul 20, 2011 · Like 2
  • Steve G Fort Collins, CO
    I recommend getting a home energy audit. You can get discount or free audits through many utility companies. Anyhow, they can tell you how to optimize your overall energy efficiency in the attic and everywhere else before you get your AC installed. This could help you save money on the AC system or at the very least save on AC bills.
    on Jul 20, 2011 · Like 1
  • Nichter's Home Services C... Islesboro, ME
    Venting is a scientific endeavor that many fail to grasp. Attic venting design requires one sq ft of vent for every 100-150 sq ft of conditioned living space. The ridge vent area should be equal to the soffit vent area. Same air going in is going back out to carry heat and moisture with it.

    The problem that can happen when there is no soffit venting or when the ridge vent area drastically exceeds that of the soffit vents is that it can tend to creating a negative pressure in the ...»

    attic and pull conditioned air from the house into the attic. In winter, this results in much condensation in the attic and often encourages mold. Not only that, but your overall energy costs go up for conditioning the home. A powered roof vent can also do the same. They can be effective sometimes in the hot south, but often create more problems in the different climate of the north.

    So I caution you not to blindly throw solutions at a problem that may not need to be fixed.

    on Jul 21, 2011 · Like 1
  • Paul M Fairburn, GA
    If the house is properly sealed how can air from inside the house get into the attic? I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense to me. There would have to be some sort of access point somewhere otherwise the air in the attic will stay in the attic. Even under negative pressure the air would just move from the ridge vent to the soffit vents or the soffit area even it it didn't have vents because it is not a sealed space.
    on Jul 21, 2011 · Like 1
  • KMS Woodworks Nederland, CO
    Sealing and Insulation are also contributors, I've worked in many attics during the summer and they are always much hotter than the living spaces...whether these living spaces are conditioned or not. The Attic will never feel cool compared to these other areas. Good venting requires both an inlet and outlet and these need to be balanced for flow, passive or active. Adding a gable fan is great way to move a lot of air but will need to have an inlet source that can handle this higher ...»
    flowrate.

    When I worked in the Pharmaceutical industry our manufacturing facility had rooms of various "pressures" These contributed to the various levels of "clean room" and ran from -.1" water pressure to +.2" These pressures were meet by adding or removing more air flow than the inlet or outlets would allow. Thereby creating this pressure differential. If you attic is negative pressure due to a large gable vent fan then small leaks around light fixtures, plumbing vents etc. will allow the cooler conditioned air to get "sucked" up into the attic...and therefore cause more energy waste.

    on Jul 21, 2011 · Like 1
  • DannieBuilds Atlanta, GA
    The air inside can be moved with your soffit/ridge venting. It is a slow process because it is powered by convection. If the vents are too small or blocked with insulation they don''t move the heat out. If the air is mechanically sped up via a fan, the air moves quicker. A radiant barrier installed on the bottom of the rafters will stop the roof from adding to your heat problem. It will also help to reflect heat back into the structure during the cold season. Adequate insulation, 18 ...»
    inches, on the ceiling will deter what heat is up there from coming in.

    on Jul 21, 2011 · Like 0
  • Woodbridge Environmental ... Colonia, NJ
    Please be patient with this answer, everyone here has touched on this answer correctly but perhaps understanding a bit more on this subject you will get what they are trying to tell you.

    The old school theory of installing attic fans or more roof vents has been around a long time. In fact when I was in this industry many moons ago I too told my clients to install attic fans. And this was not just to help the AC or so I thought in the house but to help my bottom line as it was ...»

    something else i could sell. Our sales point was to use these fans to remove heat from attics that had poor ventilation or help remove heat from areas of the attic that had poor natural air flow and that would result in lower cooling requirements.

    Little was known at the time about attic air flow, energy costs, moisture and mold. In the 70's when we had our first energy issues many people began to seal up their attics and began to turn off their attic fans in order to save some money.

    In the 80's we began to realize that shingles on roofs began to fail faster, and plywood used to sheath roofs were failing as well. A lot of research went into this issue and the emergence of ridge vents came into the picture. Also we began to see the use of de-humidistats on the fans to control moisture that resulted in mold.

    In the 90's we began to see lots of mold in the attics. We began to see that attics that had ridge vents, and soffit vents had much less mold issues then those with fan systems. Were we on to something? Perhaps not?

    In the 2000's we began to look at energy with much more emphasis on the house as a system approach. Meaning that for any one thing you change or alter, it effects something else.

    We began as an industry that all of our ideas of sealing and venting regardless of what or how we did it changed something else within the home. This brings to light why some homes that were the same style and construction and had the same type of ventilation system employed worked and some did not and resulted in some sort of an ill effect such as mold, odors and the like.

    Using the whole house as a system approach you will begin to understand a bit more on the hows and whys you need to ventilate and how to do it properly so not to effect something else within the home.

    Picture your house as a big chimney. As with any chimney heated air flows up. when this occurs the air in the lowest part as in a basement of a house becomes slightly negative in pressure. If you were to open a window in the middle of the house or put a hole in your chimney in the middle it would effect that airflow and less would be pulled in at the bottom. With the addition of newer windows and doors along with better house sealing methods you or the industry as a whole in effect has created a better chimney in your home. More basement air is being introduced into the home. Which results in more pollutants from poorly drafting appliances. Radon is drawn in and so are odors from crawl spaces. So along comes a better mouse trap. Basement fans are installed to counter against this. So a tug of war begins with a natural occurrence of air flow and mechanical methods to counter act those occurrences. All in an effort to save money.

    Now comes into play the attic. As we now understand your attic is part of a greater system which is the whole house. If we begin to change anything in the attic it too will being to change how the rest of the house reacts. By installing a fan or roof vent it begins to draw more air out of the attic, in return more must come in. But where? does it come in from the sofffit vents? Or does it get pulled out of poorly installed duct systems, or light fixtures or from holes created for wires that extend all the way to the basement? Add this to outside conditions such as wind flows, or house designs. And you end up with a recipe of good intentions causing more issues then you began with.

    If you can cap your chimney your air flow from the rest of it will stop flowing up. Although air currents will still rise and as they cool will fall. The condition of that air other then temps will or should remain the same. If we take that a bit further If we seal off the attic properly. such as lights, ducts, access hatches and the like we now only need to control that system by itself. If properly done, your attic area then becomes a system all by itself.

    At that point you can then determine what type of ventilation would work best. And there are about as many methods as Basking Robbins has flavors of ice cream. The current trend is using natural methods. No power fans. These items waste money using electrical energy and can draw in abnormal amounts of air containing excessive moisture resulting in mold.

    With properly sized ridge vents and correctly matching and located soffit venting the natural heating and cooling will bring in just what the attic requires. Don't believe me? Go to a house that has a detached garage. No mold in attic, roof lasts about twice as long as the house it belongs to. So you have to ask yourself why? Because the natural ventilation that the garage has because of leaks and no indoor conditions such as heated and cooled air is introduced shows us that this is what we should be doing in our homes.

    So by properly sealing the attic from the rest of the house, controlling indoor humidity and installing properly sized natural ventilation systems such a ridge and matching soffit ventilation your doing your very best to preserve your roof, and lower your utility bills as a result.

    on Jul 21, 2011 · Like 7
  • Paul M Fairburn, GA
    Well that was quite an essay Environmental and all pertinent information as well. All that being said if someone wanted to put a fan in the attic, if they need a fan in the attic and don't want to have to pay to run it then put in a solar fan. It will only run during the day, of course that is when you really need it, and it won't cost one cent to run because the sun powers it.

    BTW that was a great article you wrote just then. Thanks

    on Jul 21, 2011 · Like 0
  • Nichter's Home Services C... Islesboro, ME
    Paul ( Great name - I am Paul too)

    "If the house is properly sealed how can air from inside the house get into the attic? I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense to me"

    I have worked in this industry for over forty years and in all that time I thing I might have seen only two houses that were "properly sealed" ...»

    But I have repaired dozens of them that were improperly sealed, designed, maintained, etc

    Every penetration to the attic is a potential source of moisture leaking from the living space to the attic. Holes for wiring, plumbing vents, errors in VB screws through the VB, attic access hatches, etc, etc, etc

    on Jul 21, 2011 · Like 0
  • Woodbridge Environmental ... Colonia, NJ
    2nd Paul,

    I could not agree with you more. Even wall board itself has a leakage factor, although small air does get through it. For each square inch of hole multiple pints of water can enter per hour through it. So just a few wire holes can cause all sorts of humidity to leak out of the house and enter into the attic area. ...»

    A properly performed audit using blower door and precise air flow testing equipment can quantify this air loss for you. And is strongly suggested to be done before and then after the work is done.

    on Jul 22, 2011 · Like 2
  • KMS Woodworks Nederland, CO
    One area over looked in the "detached garages do not have mold" scenario is the significant lack of moisture sources in a garage....no showers, no cooking, no humans transpiring a gallon a day per person, day to day living contributes huge amounts of water vapor into the living space...garages simply do not have this moisture source.
    on Jul 22, 2011 · Like 0
  • Nichter's Home Services C... Islesboro, ME
    KM S,

    Don't forget that auto exhaust and water or ice and snow dripping off the cars brings water into a garage space

    on Jul 23, 2011 · Like 0
  • KMS Woodworks Nederland, CO
    Cars should not be run in the garage where exhaust can accumulate, and snow and ice or cars wet with rain can add moisture. These sources however are usually intermittent and can be cleaned up with a little effort.
    on Jul 23, 2011 · Like 0
  • Linda G Rhinebeck, NY
    wow. amazing and very helpful/clarifying. i think right now we will not be making any changes to the system for the time being. thank you very much.
    on Jul 24, 2011 · Like 0

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