Is this a Cassia

Sherrie Slaboda
by Sherrie Slaboda
I posted this last year when it was a tiny plant. Douglas Hunt I hope you can tell what this plant is. It got vey large in a year.
  93 answers
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Sep 30, 2014
    @Douglas Hunt this is a close up of the flower. Hope someone can ID.
  • Marge kleppel Marge kleppel on Sep 30, 2014
    It almost looks like the perennial, Veronica. But really hard to tell for sure from the picture.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Sep 30, 2014
    @marge kleppel this is either a big shrub or a tree. It is overr 5' high and at least as wide. Last year it was a little thing.
  • Loretta Loretta on Sep 30, 2014
    Is it a Mexican Heather plant? Looks like some we have here in Texas
  • Carole Carole on Sep 30, 2014
    Whatever it is - it is very pretty!
  • Sharon Haughton Sharon Haughton on Oct 01, 2014
    Cassia has yellow blossoms.
  • Dorothy Dorothy on Oct 01, 2014
    Don't immediately recognize it but close up of flower suggests it is a legume (related to peas, alfalfa, etc),. Possibly one of the indigo's?
  • Jeanne Carmichael Jeanne Carmichael on Oct 01, 2014
    The flower looks like a weigela.
  • Liliana Wells Liliana Wells on Oct 01, 2014
    The cassia is yellow. See images of the weigela on Google.
  • Christine G Christine G on Oct 01, 2014
    The leaves remind me if the Lonicera family
  • Ltfrazier1 Ltfrazier1 on Oct 01, 2014
    Looks like a Heather to me.
  • Lillian Santana Lillian Santana on Oct 01, 2014
    Definitely a NO on the mexican heather... never seen it more than 1 1/2 ft high, plus the structure and leaves are different.
  • Douglas Hunt Douglas Hunt on Oct 01, 2014
    Sherrie, that is not a cassia. There are pink ones, but they bloom in the spring. Are the stems square? The flower resembles some types of salvia or sage to me.
  • Ren Ren on Oct 01, 2014
    Heather
  • Mary Munsch Mary Munsch on Oct 01, 2014
    Sage? This is what it reminds me of.
  • Debra Heins Debra Heins on Oct 01, 2014
    This is a lespedeza. I have one also. It was very small last year but this year its huge.
  • Jane Brogan Jane Brogan on Oct 01, 2014
    Reminds me of Russian sage. Can be very aggressive, but very beautiful.
  • Trina Denaro Trina Denaro on Oct 01, 2014
    Take a piece to your local garden center I'm certain they can identify it.
  • Paula Paula on Oct 01, 2014
    Lespedeza
  • Carole Carole on Oct 01, 2014
    Looks like Russian sage.. Spreads like wild fire.
  • NancyLee NancyLee on Oct 01, 2014
    Will you post a close-up of the leaves, stems and blossoms?
  • Marie Phillips Walters Marie Phillips Walters on Oct 01, 2014
    Russian sage
  • Rebecca Temari Rebecca Temari on Oct 01, 2014
    I think Paula and Debra are right, it's Lespedeza Thunbergii or (Bush Clover). It can grow from 5' to 8' tall and wide in zones 6-8. I've been thinking about getting this plant for my garden. It blooms in late summer to early fall and should be cut down to the ground each year I think cuz it dies back in the winter.
  • Marinda Boydstun Marinda Boydstun on Oct 01, 2014
    It kind of looks like my bee balm, which I planted to attract bees(butterflies like it too).
  • Mary Bennett Mary Bennett on Oct 01, 2014
    A lot of my neighbors have this plant, & I have been wondering what it is too! I love the colors!
  • Pate Garson Pate Garson on Oct 01, 2014
    It's a Wegelia. You can cut it back each year after it flowers to control the growth.
  • Sheilahjo Sheilahjo on Oct 01, 2014
    Russian sage
  • Jill Jill on Oct 01, 2014
    It's called a Beautyberry bush and they get large, you will need to keep it cut back every other year to keep it under control.
  • Mary Mary on Oct 01, 2014
    I have a flowering bush that looks like this and the person that gave me the start said it was an alfalfa bush.
  • Evon H Evon H on Oct 01, 2014
    It looks like Mexican Heather to me.
  • Julie Julie on Oct 01, 2014
    It's not the wegelia we have down south and it's not beautyberry. Wegelia blooms in the spring and beautyberry has berries and no flowers.
  • Rhonda Rhonda on Oct 01, 2014
    Here in Texas we call it Mexican Heather.
  • Elaine S Elaine S on Oct 01, 2014
    I agree with Evon H, it does look like Mexican Heather.
  • Fran Barrett Fran Barrett on Oct 01, 2014
    Definitely Lespedeza Thunbergii, or 'Bush Clover.' Mexican Heather is similar from afar, but the flowers are very different. http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=d760
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 01, 2014
    This is a close up of the leaves and flowers of what I thought was a cassia. I'm in zone 9 Florida. @Elaine S I don't think it is a Mexican Heather.
  • Karla Marr Karla Marr on Oct 01, 2014
    it looks like Mexican Heather ..I grow this as an annual in Iowa
  • Sandra Parrill Sandra Parrill on Oct 01, 2014
    Lespedeza. I have a variety called Purple Fountains and love it.The one pictured is a beautiful plant.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 01, 2014
    You are 100% correct @Rebecca Temari. It is a Lespedeza thunbergii . Thank you.
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    • Nicole Nicole on Oct 02, 2014
      I know where I want mine just need to get motivated to rip out a butterfly bush in gravel ugh but it will be way better then tht invasive butterfly bush
  • Ruth76114 Ruth76114 on Oct 01, 2014
    not mexican heather, cassia, beautyberry, or wegelia. I grow them all. The blooms are pea-like so it must be related to the legume family somehow. Have you tried the local garden center?
  • Wanda Wanda on Oct 01, 2014
    From this picture, the plant looks like my 3 fair size Rusian Sage plants. My weigela looks a bit differently so I don't believe that's what it is.
  • Donna Donna on Oct 01, 2014
    looks like Mexican Heather to me as well.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 01, 2014
    @Ruth76114 The correct name of my plant is right above your post. @Rebecca Temari named it correctly as a Lespedeza thunbergii.
  • Terrie Neudorf Terrie Neudorf on Oct 01, 2014
    In Canada we call this a bleeding heart . Not sure of it botanical name . I have heather and none of it looks like this .
  • Terrie Neudorf Terrie Neudorf on Oct 01, 2014
    Not cassia , that grows more like a tree not on the ground .
  • Michelle De La Rosa Michelle De La Rosa on Oct 01, 2014
    Doesn't look like Mexican Heather...Looks like what I have...they call it a Duarte.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 01, 2014
    The correct name of my plant is right above your posts. Rebecca Temari named it correctly as a Lespedeza thunbergii. Thank you all for helping me. I love Hometalk.
  • Barbara Brand Barbara Brand on Oct 01, 2014
    Lavender. Had one that got really large.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 01, 2014
    Many thanks to @Paula and @Debra Heins who also identified my plant. I do appreciate it.
  • Judith Horton-Holm Judith Horton-Holm on Oct 01, 2014
    Smell it---if it smells like lavender , maybe? but i would go with the heather
  • Dia370611 Dia370611 on Oct 01, 2014
    I just bought a plant that looks like this and the common name is gilbratar clover bush.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 01, 2014
    Dian you, too, are correct with a name Clover Bush that is easier to remember then the fancy name Lespedeza thunbergii. You'll love the plant.
  • Bernice H Bernice H on Oct 01, 2014
    Oh Sherrie..this is a beauty! Does it have a fragrance?
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 01, 2014
    Yes it is pretty @Bernice H but I haven't even thought about smelling it yet. I just wanted to know what it is. I really doubt it will smell wonderful but that's OK. I'm happy to see it and know I will see it again even if we have a little frost here in Florida.
  • Dottie Dorton Warren Dottie Dorton Warren on Oct 01, 2014
    Mexican Heather
  • Nicole Nicole on Oct 02, 2014
    Lespedeza thunbergii not sure on variety but this you plant it like sun and blooms late summer -fall a wonderful sub. For non native butterfly bush which I find invasive. Colder areas die back and you can cut back as well will grow a lot every season has a water fall habit and google search Lespedeza thunbergii you will find amazing photos and might even be able to find a variety for ur bush clover
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Oct 02, 2014
    As I read these posts it seems that most people familiar with this plant live north of Florida. It just showed up in my yard a year ago and is in full sun. It is a lovely plant so I hope it survives here.
    • Douglas Hunt Douglas Hunt on Oct 03, 2014
      @Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie it is somewhat troubling that this plant just showed up in your yard. It is considered an invasive species in several states in the south, and one of the reasons is its ability to establish itself in new areas. Please keep an eye out on this plant and look for signs of others in your yard.
  • Bernice H Bernice H on Oct 02, 2014
    I hope so too @Sherrie Slaboda If I had just 2 or 3 of those I could let everything else, except my hostas ...go. I thought I bought 2 burning bushes ,and they turned out to be barberry. Very disappointed!
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Oct 02, 2014
    @Bernice H I have 4 little Hostas that are 2 years old. Finally found one type that grows in Florida.
  • Carol Carol on Oct 02, 2014
    will it grow in the cold and frigid northeast????
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 02, 2014
    Carol from what I read about it. - it shouldn't be growing here but it is. I understand it grows in zones 4-8 so if I were you and you could find it You should try it. It is beautiful.
  • Lisa Shinn Lisa Shinn on Oct 03, 2014
    It looks like a Barberry bush. Does it have thorns?
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Oct 03, 2014
    No @Lisa Shinn It is a Lespedeza thunbergii and does not have thorns.
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Oct 03, 2014
    @Douglas Hunt it has been here about 2 years & just gets prettier. It is NOT invasive.
  • Christine G Christine G on Oct 04, 2014
    It looks beautiful! Does anyone know where I can buy a plant or seeds in Canada? I live in zone 5 and don't mind if it is invasive, as I've got a pretty big property. It is so beautiful and would love to have a flowering shrub in the fall. If I buy seed, do you know if I should plant it now or should I wait in the spring (April-May)?
  • Jo Jo on Oct 04, 2014
    It is listed as a nonnative invasive plant for forests in the Southeastern United States and has even become widespread enough to require control measures. The Georgia Exotic Pest Plant Council (EPPC) lists it as a category 3 problem in Georgia (www.gaeppc.org). The EPPC of Kentucky also lists it as an invasive plant (www.invasive.org). Read more:http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/878/#ixzz3FCOiDVHS
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 04, 2014
    jo I read the following at Dave's garden: it self-sows easily so deadhead if you don't want seedlings. Many plants/trees here in Florida do the same thing so I still love this plant and don't consider it invasive.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 04, 2014
    @Christine G I don't know much about this plant but apparently it drops some type of seed. If I see some I'll be happy to mail them to you. It really is a beautiful but fast growing bush. I have a large yard so I'm very pleased.
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Oct 04, 2014
    @Sharon Haughton I found that cassia also had pink blossoms. Google it. I do have the yellow cassia and love it but I now know that my pink plant is NOT a cassia.
  • Rosanne Rosanne on Oct 06, 2014
    cassia sienna is GA has yellow flowers AND attracts yellow caterpillars
  • Sharon Sharon on Oct 06, 2014
    it's beautiful, would love to have it in my yard, seems to cover a lot of space, I'll have to try to find some in the spring, enjoy it!
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Oct 07, 2014
    @Sharon the plant is only a little over one year old and about 6 1/2 feet high and 8' wide. Does anyone know what the seeds look like. Some of my neighbors would like some of the seeds since nobody here had ever seen this plant.
    • Sharon Sharon on Oct 08, 2014
      @Sherrie Slaboda I checked it out on Wikipedia and it says: The fruit is a legume pod containing black seeds, so perhaps that will help you find the seeds.
  • Christine G Christine G on Oct 07, 2014
    @Sherrie Slaboda Tks fort the offer. I am back in FL in December. If you get any seeds by then I'll gladly accept your offer :-)
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 07, 2014
    Christine I don't know what the seeds look like but I'll try to find them.
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Oct 08, 2014
    Thank you @Sharon. I found the seed pods will show up in late fall. I'll be watching for them.
    • Sharon Sharon on Oct 09, 2014
      @Sherrie Slaboda when you started yours was it a small plant or from seeds? I can't seem to find it in my area.
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Oct 09, 2014
    @Sharon I found a tiny plant in my backyard and thought it was a pink cassia so I didn't kill it. I have a lot of wildlife here so maybe some animal/bird planted it for me.
    • Sharon Sharon on Oct 11, 2014
      Lucky you, I'll keep looking. I'll be to Florida for the winter soon maybe I'll even find one there to bring home.
  • Sherrie Slaboda Sherrie Slaboda on Oct 11, 2014
    @sharon I'll be watching for those seeds & mail some to you if I find them. Where are you visiting in Florida?
    • Sharon Sharon on Oct 12, 2014
      We'll be in the Davenport area, hopefully by Thanksgiving. I'd love some seeds, how nice of you to offer, thanks!
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Oct 13, 2014
    @Sharon by Thanksgiving there should be seeds (based on what I read). I never had this plant before so I will be watching for those seeds and save them. Have a very safe trip. Davenport is about 60 miles from my home - I looked it up. I hope there are seeds because a number of people have requested them.
  • Christine G Christine G on Dec 10, 2014
    @Sherrie Slaboda did you find seed on your beautiful plant? If your offer still stands and you found some, I would love it if you could mail me some! :-) Let me know! Thanks!!
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Dec 10, 2014
    @Christine G and @Sharon there are tons of plant droppings but nothing looks like seeds. Maybe there are seeds but I sure can't tell. I could send you an envelope of the droppings. I wonder if a cutting would work. I could send that in a bigger envelope. I sure love that plant and plan to cover it because I don't know how much cold it can take.
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    • Sharon Sharon on Dec 11, 2014
      We are here in Florida now, let me know if you discover seeds, don't want you to go to any trouble of mailing a cutting.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Dec 10, 2014
    Thank you @Rebecca Temari. Now all I need to know is where are the seeds. I don't see anything but dead flowers/leaves.
  • Sharon Haughton Sharon Haughton on Dec 10, 2014
    Thanks, Sherrie. This blows me away. I never considered that cassia came in different colors. I'll have to find out more about them.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Dec 10, 2014
    @Sharon Haughton oh my I am wrong, wrong, wrong. Everyone else knows it as a Lespedeza Thunbergii. Everyone else is right. It is a lovely thing.
  • Christine G Christine G on Dec 14, 2014
    Hi Sherrie from what I read on Wikipedia they say the fruit is a legume pod containing black seeds. " The small, black, bean-like, seeds are singly produced in pods which open when mature. Seed matures in late September or early October. Dark purplish-brown or mottled brown in color, the seed occurs singly in oval pods about 1/4 inch long. Some plants hold part of their seed into the winter, but most of it drops in autumn. Usually 80 to 90 percent of the seeds fall by the first of January" Hope this helps!! Let me know if you find any. Thanks!!
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Dec 14, 2014
    @Christine G I saw pods like you mentioned on my yellow cassia. So far all I see on the Lespedeza are little dead leaves / flowers on the ground. If you need/want yellow cassia seeds I do have the pods right now. Funny I never noticed them before. I will keep looking and let you know if/when I find them on the Lespedeza.
    • Christine G Christine G on Dec 15, 2014
      @Sherrie S Maybe the seeds fell off on the ground...but if you find any let me know and I'll give you my email so you can write to me and I'll give you my mailing address. Thank you so much for all the trouble! I wish I could also grow a cassia but unfortunately they don't survive temperatures below 30F and here in Florida I don't have anywhere I can plant them. Too bad...they are beautiful also. The Lespedeza however are for planting up north and they can withstand the cold climate. Thank you again! xxx
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Dec 15, 2014
    Christine G the Cassia grow here in zone 9b. They would loveLauderdale and right now they have seed pods - look like peapods to me. This Blue/Purple Lespedeza planted itself here and I know nothing aboutit. The YELLOW cassia I'm sure of. I will be happy to send you the seed pods if you want them. Just let me know
  • Christine G Christine G on Jan 09, 2015
    Ok thanks @Sherrie Slaboda Would love some Lespedeza seeds...I want to plant them at my home in Canada. I live in Zone 5, so I think it would work. However not the Cassia...it is too cold up there. I have no place for them in my Florida home living in a condo. Too bad, but thanks for the offer!! xxxx
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Jan 09, 2015
    @Christine G the Lespedeza is only about 1 year old. Maybe it doesn't make seeds the first year?? I'll be watching it closely in 2015.
  • Christine G Christine G on Jan 09, 2015
    No problem Sherrie! Thanks!
  • Linda Linda on Jan 15, 2015
    Looks like Mexican Heather. Had a plant come up this spring were I had removed the dead plant. Obviously they have seeds. Left and will watch in spring. Only care given was watering it. Beautiful. Live on Eastern Shore of MD.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Jan 16, 2015
    @Linda it is a Lespedeza and I have not yet seen any seeds/pods of any kind. It is not a Mexican Heather.
  • Sherrie S Sherrie S on Sep 13, 2015
    @Christine G the plant hasn't bloomed yet. I'm watching for any kind of seed. I'll post a pic when it does bloom - which should be very soon.
  • Christine G Christine G on Sep 13, 2015
    Thanks @Sherrie S for thinking about me!! :-)