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Lisa S Jacksonville, NC on Aug 19, 2011
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Okay.

My first question. I have a small home that I bought a year and a half ago and it needs to be made more energy efficient. The windows are single pane, the roof needs replacing, the walls and attic need insulation, and lastly the central heating and air should also be replaced. Since my funds are limited and I may have to do one project at a time, what would be the first thing I should begin with if I am unable to afford all of this to be done at one time and how do I find a contractor that may be able to perform high quality work with quality materials at the lowest possible cost? The home is only a 2 bedroom, one bath with a single garage and has only 1000 square feet? I don't know what elst to add to the question. Thank you.
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  • Steve G Fort Collins, CO
    Congratulations on buying the house. Sounds about the size and possibly the vintage of my house. As for where to start, it's hard to say without a few more details, but if the attic has no insulation, spraying in some insulation (either DIY or through a pro) should provide a lot of bang for the buck. You should recoup the cost in energy savings very quickly. Walls might be next. When you say the roof needs replacing, are you concerned about leaks or structural damage. If so, that should be ...»
    first priority. Windows and HVAC replacements are going to boost your comfort and decrease energy bills, but they are big-ticket pieces that will take several years to pay off.

    on Aug 19, 2011 · Like 1
  • Lisa S Jacksonville, NC
    Thank you, Steve. The house is 1983-ish. The attic has some insulation but there isn't any above the garage. The roof is just old old shingle type. I am looking into the energy efficiency of a metal roof and how I can compare the different types that are manufactured. I also heard about some sort of reflective insulation for the attic (or Roof)? If I insulate the walls, shouldn't I have the siding replaced because either way, doesn't either the siding have to come off, or the sheet ...»
    rock inside of house, to put in new insulation? If the house had great siding, I would consider the blown in insulation, but since it needs replacing, I think that idea would make quite a mess when the siding is replaced. The outside of the house is some hind of wood board panels that are painted. The windows are original but if I go with vinyl replacement, doesn't the siding replacement need to be done at the same time because the windows would need to go under the new siding? Thank you and I appreciate any ideas that you have. Please ask anything that you need to help me.

    on Aug 19, 2011 · Like 0
  • Lisa S Jacksonville, NC
    Thanks for the answers, but I'm still hoping for more ideas.
    on Aug 19, 2011 · Like 0
  • Lisa S Jacksonville, NC
    Steve, my main concern is energy efficiency and of course asthetic and resale value.
    on Aug 19, 2011 · Like 0
  • Harold M Franklin, NC
    Lisa

    Do the insulation in the attic and floor first. This will sound redneck, but you can always staple up plastic over the windows in the winter (I've done this before) until you can change them out. Check with your local utility. They somtimes have rebate programs for adding insulation. You can't go wrong doing this

    on Aug 20, 2011 · Like 1
  • KMS Woodworks Nederland, CO
    I agree with insulation in the attic as giving the most bang for your buck...next up would be air sealing...leaks around windows fixture etc. To beef up the insulation in the walls can be done by blowing into the wall cavities (from in or out) additional rigid foam can be added to the exterior and then new siding...it new windows are in the plan these should go in as part of this new siding / exterior insulation install.
    on Aug 20, 2011 · Like 2
  • Lisa S Jacksonville, NC
    This was the very exact thing I have done so far. I have a thick clear plastic on the outside of the windows that is sealed very well. It helps tremendiously cutting down on the electric bill summer and winter and no longer have condensation build up on the inside. Those windows have to go! I exchange the air in the house every morning by opening the doors to the screen doors so the air quality is kept fresh. I am contemplating on the different types of attic insulations and how to accomplish this all cost effectively.

    on Aug 20, 2011 · Like 0
  • Paul M Fairburn, GA
    Anything related to insulation would be the priority on my list. That is the attic, windows, and the walls. Anything you spend on keeping the house comfortable will just literally fly out the window if you don't get the house properly insulated first. After that you can just do things in what every order you like depending on what you want to have available first. Good luck with your project.
    on Aug 20, 2011 · Like 0
  • Madelaine S Fairmont, WV
    Rule of Thumb: Start with your envelope: roof if it is leaking or there are structural problems, insulation next. That said, you will see more savings by upgrading HVAC and appliances before windows. Windows have a long payback period, but caulk around them if there is air leaking. Also look into thermal blinds, drapes, etc. It is surprising how much they will help, the closer you can fit them to the window, the better they work. ...»

    Also replace your light bulbs with CFLs now. They may seem expensive at first, but I am 4 years into my house and haven't had to replace a light bulb since moving in. And the bulbs have gotten better in the past 4 years. The have a much softer, more natural light and don't require that annoying warm up time anymore.

    If you are unsure what to do about the wall insulation, see if any contractors offer thermal imaging. They can come out with a thermal camera, take pictures and literally show you the insulation "holes" in the walls without removing anything. Then you can plan what is the best approach. You may just have some spots were insulation has dropped. It may be fine.

    That was a bit long winded, but I hope it helps!

    on Aug 20, 2011 · Like 0
  • KMS Woodworks Nederland, CO
    Lisa, have you check out how you attic is configured yet? Know whether it is a truss roof or conventional framing and how much and what type of insulation is currently there will help determine how to move forward.
    on Aug 21, 2011 · Like 0
  • Woodbridge Environmental ... Colonia, NJ
    To get the most bang for your buck you need to address the building envelope shell of the house. Meaning ceilings, walls, and basement or floors.

    Air is the biggest robber of energy in a home. While putting in new windows, new heating and cooling, and adding insulation all have benefits stopping air flow from robbing the conditioned air is the easiest and cheapest method that anyone can do themselves. ...»

    To understand what to do is simple.

    Start with your attic.

    Look around the attic, pull insulation up in various areas and take a look see if it appears to be blackened from dust. This means there is air flow that is robbing the R value out of what is already there. In that same area you most likely will find, openings from wires coming into the attic from below, ceiling boxes that support lights below, Access doors that are poorly sealed. Perhaps pipes from baths and kitchens below. All should be sealed. Do you have can lights that stick up into the attic? These are big energy loss hogs.

    Get a few cans of spray foam. With the exception of the can lights, Foam around all of these openings. If you see the top plates of the room below that crisscross in the attic, seal those edges as well. There should be no openings left alone.

    Why? Air as it exits the living area into the attic through these holes will pull the conditioned air out of the house. Much like a sweater you wear it feels warm until a breeze blows. That chill you feel is the heat being drawn out of the material. Same thing happens in the attic.

    The next thing to address is the ceiling can lights if you have them. Unless they are zero clearance fixtures you cannot seal the holes on them. You must construct a small box or cover that allows air to move around them. These boxes can be built out of foam boards, wood, Sheetrock, or we use the round tubes used for cement. We place these around the lights and seal them into place with spray foam. Inside we then change the bulbs to compact florescent bulbs. Low heat and safer. Also saves money on power as well.

    Inside the basement or crawl space. You also have much like the openings in the attic the same in the basement crawl space area. Pipes, wires, heating and cooling ducts, all allow air to flow up through the living area pulling heat and cool air out with it. Seal the openings the same way as the attic. Spray foam. Have larger holes? Plug them with insulation and then cover with foam. The whole idea is to stop the air flow upward through the home.

    Inside house. Remove all fixture covers on outlets and switches. Purchase from any big box store gaskets to seal these boxes. Simply place gasket on back of cover and re-attach. This prevent air from being pulled into or out of the walls. All energy robbing areas.

    AC system. You need to seal the ducts. Every seam you can see leaks air. With some older systems leaking as much as 30% of their air out of or into the system. When leaks occur outside of the heating and cooling envelope area such as a damp basement or crawl or even an attic the conditioning system must treat this air and remove moisture in summer as well as heat, or heat the cold air that enters during the winter months.

    A simple fact is that you can take a 90% efficient furnace and attach it to a duct system that has not been properly sealed and the end result is only a 75% efficient furnace delivery over all.

    Your windows which can be the easiest thing to correct is not about putting in double pane glass but to seal gaps that allow for air loss. Of course you will gain benefits out of putting higher U value windows in, but when your on a budget as most of us are sealing with caulk and window plastic or simple storm windows can help a lot. Simply putting in new windows is probably the worse initial investment you would make. If your doing it just to save money. Paybacks on high end windows can be as much as 50+ years before you see your savings. So putting plastic on is a good idea.

    There are several window sealing kits from 3M that work well. These can be purchased at most big box stores and require little effort to install.

    Regardless of what path you choose, if you stop the air flow you will save money.

    Bob

    on Aug 21, 2011 · Like 2
  • Nichter's Home Services C... Islesboro, ME
    Roof first, then insulation, then go forward.
    on Aug 21, 2011 · Like 0
  • Shane Tallant Nashville, TN
    Lisa- As we close out the summer months, I would start to consider what areas of the home are going to REALLY need insulation from any cold weather you may experience. You live in NC, so I would assume that it doesn't get extremely cold; which is a good thing. If I was forced to tackle one of the problem areas, I would say the roof is most important. You can always seal off leaky windows. After that, the HVAC would be my next area of focus. GOOD LUCK!
    on Aug 22, 2011 · Like 0
  • Wally Daly ,,Mastercarpen... Marietta, GA
    thats what i did to my old house ,,,1st concentrated on insulate roof,,with the type of isulation that has complete plastic wrap,,,,when ,and in this old house,,there is always something askew,,,,i can move and store till replacing,,the key is bring you out going cost for energy down,,,,first getthat in control also plastic inside ,,,as you go evry home supply has the fit for the old windows ,,,the plastic insert on the sides,,,if you have aluminum..take out,,flat surface ,,should ...»
    be,,window sizes are standard,,,any good carpenter in your area should be able to just get insulated sash`s,,and the inserts,,at times you might have to remove a screen mold ,,,good luck

    on Sep 02, 2011 · Like 0
  • Donald B Powder Springs, GA
    I do my own work to my house such as wall insulation, new windows, & replace water lines from the road and under the house. The first thing I would do is the attic. I am serious about this, get a friend willing to get dirty I mean dirty and go get the insulation blowing machine from Homedepot or Lowes and do the attic yourself. They have instructions and you can look it up on the internet what to do and not to do. Do not cover the vents with insulation. They have baffels that you can ...»
    install around the vents. Blow in R50. They at the store will help. I would do the windows next. Do one it the back of the house first so your mistakes will not show from the road. It is really easy. You remove the old window from the outside and slide in the new. Get the foam insulation in a can for windows and doors. Do not say it, yes you can do it.

    on Sep 18, 2011 · Like 0
  • Glkirk Builders Inc. Chesapeake, VA
    Hi Lisa, I'm up here just across the border in Virginia.

    Attic insulation-The garage does not need insulation but any adjoining areas to the garage do. (Walls ect). Depending on what you have up there now- Blown or Batt, Todays min. code is R38. Ill bet ther are companies that could upgrade your attic for a cost that you could see a return in just a few years. ...»

    Wall insulation-There are companies that are very good at installing it in walls from outside or inside. Usually they try to go from outside. I think you would be surprised how well they can do the job without you having to replace your siding! (See Windows below). First; do you already have insulation in your walls? Maybe, carefully remove a electric outlet/switch cover and investigate.

    Windows-Vinyl replacement windows do not normally need any modifications to the siding. The siding is not touched.

    I think if you shop around (keeping Apples for Apples in mind) you could get some quality windows that would pay for themselves within a few years.

    All these entities- if done poorley are just a waste or worst of money. Its too bad you couldn't find someone there locally that knows what they are doing to somewhat oversee things.

    Feel free to call me anytime for advise.

    on Dec 02, 2011 · Like 0

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