Kitchen renovation in double wide ranch

Wendy
by Wendy
I'm purchasing a 1998 double wide. The kitchen has ridiculous 3/4 wall separating the kitchen from living area. We want to knock this down and put an island there. Has anyone else re-done their small kitchens? Suggestions on the best way to handle this job?
  14 answers
  • PainterNoni PainterNoni on Feb 16, 2015
    most likely it is not a bearing wall, but check to make sure........procedures would be different if it is
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    • Ray Phillips Ray Phillips on Feb 18, 2015
      @Renata Some do have load bearing walls. Depends on maf.
  • MaryStLouis MaryStLouis on Feb 16, 2015
    Before buying a new dishwasher measure the depth of your base cabinets. We have a doublewide built in 1996 and found, much to our chagrin, that the cabinets are not the standard 24" but only 22". This means that the dishwasher we installed sticks out 2", enough that the metal body and padding are visible around the sides. Not the look we were going for at all! My husband built an island using two base cabinets and wrapped them with beadboard after adding an additional foot of length with square columns. You can see him at work on it in the photo. Because our mobile home is way out in the country we could not easily order solid granite or stone of any kind so we used 24" granite tiles on the counters. There aren't many joints because the tiles are full depth and I like them just fine. The cost actually ended up being less than good quality laminate counters so that was a win-win. The floor will be replaced with tile or wood, just not sure yet. We're hoping that the subfloor is in good shape but will tackle that when all else is done. For me one of the biggest challenges was painting the walls. They have a coating of vinyl textured wallpaper so I had to use oil-based primer before painting them in latex. The strips on the walls aren't great but they don't bother me anymore. You can do a lot with a mobile home. My hubby also built a fireplace in the living room and if you want to see it, just look at the photos in my Hometalk post. Good luck on your project and post some photos! :)
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    • MaryStLouis MaryStLouis on Feb 17, 2015
      @Renata Fortunately, I really like our new dishwasher, but I do understand your angst. I read a lot of reviews before we bought ours and it's a good one, thank God.
  • Melissa McKay Melissa McKay on Feb 16, 2015
    You must be careful when removing walls! If the wall you are speaking about is the mateline wall (where the two halves come together) then YES it will most likely be a bearing wall and would require restructuring. I work in the engineering department of a modular home manufacturer and if you could post pictures I could possibly assist you further in determining if it's safe to proceed without an professional engineer.
  • Bev Bev on Feb 16, 2015
    Being in the manufactured home business for over 30 years,every wall in that mfg. house is there for a purpose. Are there supports on either end going to the ceiling? If not,you may be ok taking it out. I also discourage people to Remodel with dry wall, tile etc. you put too much wright on your frame,which is only made to hold so much weight. Good luck.
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    • Melissa McKay Melissa McKay on Feb 17, 2015
      @Wendy No, I do not agree. Some are bearing but a majority are not. If it does not touch you are safe to remove it, it does not support the roof at all. However, I do agree that the floor system is not designed to carry much load and tile would not be recommended. They make lighter floating laminate tiles now that would work for you though. Good luck and happy remodeling! Oh and, I have 13+ years experience as a manufactured truss design engineer (roof, wall, and floor systems), if that helps with my creditability.
  • Gaye Whittington Gaye Whittington on Feb 17, 2015
    I have a single wide (16x72) & did this in the kitchen as I am a disabled veteran & need a wheel chair at times. My son moved the washer & dryer from the back door area, tore down the wall separating the back entrance way & the kitchen. He put the washer & dryer in a shelf in my big bathroom where the water heater was. He moved the water heater to the outside near the power pole & build a little house for it & covered it with red tin which is what I have on the roof now. Now I have a huge kitchen & can move around in my w/c or walker. I have a large farm table which I use as a prep station as well as a dining table. I had a bar separating the kitchen & living room. We put up a wall for the freezer & refrigerator. Later we moved those appliances to the opposite wall & I use metal shelves for my pots, pans, baking dishes & a large ice tub full of lids. For me it works for everything is open & I can reach it all easily. As long as your wall is not load-bearing you can knock it down. If you are not sure, have someone come by & help you decide. Your neighbors or church has someone with the knowledge you need. Ask around! Maybe you can barter something (a homemade cake or soup) for their help!
  • Bev Bev on Feb 17, 2015
    It not just the floor. Unless you mfg home has the metal frame removed( a basement set) what you are doing is stressing out that frame which is built to carry the weight of the house as it goes down the road. Some are now made w/o the frames of metal and are hauled on flat beds. Just be careful. You will ruin your whole house by adding all the heavy drywall,tile flooring,granite etc,unless you redo the whole " interior guts" ( rafters,2/6 walls,double floors etc.,and buffed up exterior frame and cross beams. )
  • Ray Phillips Ray Phillips on Feb 17, 2015
    Mary, At 78 I stay that way. still do some woodwork. One of my grandsons and I made flooring from pallets and he installed it in his mothers den, around 400 sq. ft. we had 8 different types of wood and about 12 different colors, after he got in down sanded and then put 2 coats of clear finish and it looks great. I have a post somewhere on home talk. Hope you have a great day, and remember smile "cause God Loves You".
    • MaryStLouis MaryStLouis on Feb 17, 2015
      @Ray Phillips What a great idea! And yep, God loves you too, Mr. Phillips. :)
  • Ray Phillips Ray Phillips on Feb 17, 2015
    Mary, My Daddy was Mr. Phillips, I'm Ray
  • Renata Renata on Feb 17, 2015
    will u tell me what brand please? Mine is a Kenmore Elite, I do not recommend it.
    • MaryStLouis MaryStLouis on Feb 17, 2015
      I can tell you on Friday, just can't recall right now. We live in St Louis but have a second home in the Ozarks (the mobile home). We're heading down on Friday for a week so I'll give you the information then.
  • Bev Bev on Feb 17, 2015
    actually every wall in a manufactured home is a structural wall. They help support the roof!!! They have to be there in order for the " house" to be pulled down the road. Otherwise it would fall apart.... I have sold them,built them,set them and hauled them since 1965...,
  • Bev Bev on Feb 17, 2015
    Go for it! If it's over a basement,the frame is "beefed" up already.....
  • Alton Alton on Feb 18, 2015
    The center wall between the to halves are most likely the only support walls and others mostly come out with little damage , nail or screw holes .
  • Bonnie Moore Bonnie Moore on Feb 18, 2015
    I had hardwood floors placed throughout my double wide home and love the new look. We also opened up the wall for a view from front to back door to view the lake. The house was built in 2001 and is on a metal frame. I have not noticed nor was I told there could be a structural problem due to weight of hardwood flooring. Bev has me concerned.
    • Pavanne Halpin Pavanne Halpin on Sep 06, 2015
      @Bonnie Moore if the house was built after 1998 they have to be built to normal housing code and if it is built on a metal frame there should be no problem with installing hardwood flooring. I am going to put hardwood flooring in as soon as I can afford it into mine. And we are eventually going to put real drywall up and real wood framing on the doors and windows. It should be fine. I have seen photo's of older homes than yours with wood floors installed and they were fine.
  • Renata Renata on Feb 18, 2015
    Hmmm, Maybe his was one that didn't .