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Bernice H
Bernice H Yakima, WA
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Heating & Cooling Home Maintenance & Repairs

thermostats..advice

We have a very old thermostat, I just checked HD because their e-ad had them "on sale"..how would I ever begin to know what to get? There must be 40 to select from. We have an old round one, which I think is very touchy because it goes and goes then stops and shortly kicks in again. And setting a degree is like the lotto.

We have an old dbl wide mobile home elec furnace with central Air. Also are they hard to install or do we need someone to install it?

Thanks....

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on Sep 22, 2011 | 212 Views
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  • JL Spring & Associates Richmond, VA
    These ar low voltage devices Bernice. You can usually pop the covers off and remove the mounting screws. With power to the unit shut off at the breaker just for complete safety's sake, unscrew, get as much wire out from the wall without pulling the whole thing loose and cut the wires an inch or so from the existing thermostat and take it with you to the home center to match up. Simple small wire nuts properly twisted/secured will put help put the wires back together the same way you took ...»
    it off...black to black etc...Best to You, hope this helps! JL

    on Sep 22, 2011 · Like 1
  • Steve G Fort Collins, CO
    Digital programmable thermostats are the way to go (they save lots of energy, and it will pay for itself in short order), but even that still leaves you with about 30 options, glancing at the Depot site. There are a couple of lifestyle questions that will help you decide.

    How many settings do you need? There are 7-day programmable thermostats that allow you to program different temperature settings for each day of the week, and 5-2 thermostats that only allow two ...»

    different programs for weekdays and weekends, and finally, 5-1-1 thermostats that allow a weekday setting and different settings for each weekend day.

    Also, do you expect to want to change the temperature in the middle of the night? If so, look for a backlit display.

    On the other hand, you can probably ignore some of the advanced bells and whistles. If you don't have a home automation system, for example, you can probably skip the wifi-enabled options. Also, several are specifically designed for radiant heat, baseboards, etc.

    on Sep 22, 2011 · Like 1
  • JL Spring & Associates Richmond, VA
    I think you'll do fine with a basic replacement unit for now. If the system you have is an older "built-in furnace/ outside A/C condensor" an exact type match would put the less strain on an already taxed system. Shouls be same # wires, size etc...even if you have to call a local mobile home park and ask the manager or someone who lives there if there's a MH supply shop nearby. Many older homes used specialty heat/ac units from companies like "Coleman" (yep, ;ile the lantern folks) and may ...»
    require a specific replacement...Hope this helps ya Bernice and glad to have you on board our network! JL

    on Sep 23, 2011 · Like 1
  • Emperor cooling and heati... Covington, GA
    Buy a Honeywell stat and be done with it. Any of there standard heat cool thermostats will work for what you have and most should have a 5 year warranty. There digital models are accurate within a degree and very reliable.
    on Sep 24, 2011 · Like 2
  • Bernice H Yakima, WA
    Steve G Emperor cooling and heating Woodbridge Environmental Tiptophouse.com JL Spring & Associates sorry guys, I did not get a thermostat last year, as I had asked you all about. Hubs and furnace guy didnt think it would make any difference. The ...»
    problem with this thermostat ,(I hope) the old round one, is, the furnace keeps going and going and going. The furnace man showed me how to move the little needle inside to change the frequency and duration of on / off cycle. I cant seem to get it to be to my liking. And which needle or number?

    Would I have that problem with a digital? This one goes on, then off and within a couple of minutes it goes on again. I get so tired of hearing it, and I am sure this is not the way it is supposed to be.

    Also I am curious about a space heater. We have a radiant heater that does much more than the false wood stove we have. It is really hard to heat this old mobile home,so we have a space heater in the living room. And blankets! But nice new vinyl windows ..that don't do much on our bill but are quieter than the old ones. I don't understand why the radiant makes the room warmer than the "wood" stove , except for the fact the "warm air" coming frm the stove comes out the front bottom , from the floor level??? ( I am tempted to remove the wood stove look, because it makes me mad, but hubs loves the look!) Are we driving our elec bill high because of the age/insulation of the home, or from our heat sources? (76 dbl wide)

    on Oct 06, 2012 · Like 0
  • Woodbridge Environmental ... Colonia, NJ
    Check with your local utility company. Many offer free setback units and install them as well.
    on Oct 06, 2012 · Like 0
  • Bernice H Yakima, WA
    Woodbridge Environmental Tiptophouse.com Setbacks? What is a setback?
    on Oct 06, 2012 · Like 0
  • Steve G Fort Collins, CO
    Bernice, it sounds like the first thing you need to do is address the insulation in the home. Your utility may also offer discount or free energy audits, which can assess the current heat loss and potential for better insulation. There are lots of insulation technologies. Surely something can suit your old mobile home.

    After that, you can reassess your heating needs, because they could be significantly lower.

    on Oct 07, 2012 · Like 0
  • KMS Woodworks Nederland, CO
    Bernice H many furnace / thermostats have and adjustable "dead band". This can range from .2 degrees to 2 degrees. (my simple round thermostat is set at .3.

    The dead band allows for a cyclic temp swing with the the dead band being the height of the wave cycle. A bigger dead band would mean the furnace runs longer at each interval. With a 2 degree ...»

    dead band this might mean On at 69 and off at 71. A .5 degree dead band would be on at 69.75 degree and off at 70.25 degrees. This would result in the furnace coming on more frequently but running for shorter intervals.

    This is not as much of a concern with electric heat as there are no condensation issues...with gas appliances a certain min run time is needed to drive moisture out. In those cases a wider dead band is better.

    From a cost stand point have you thought about installing pellet stove? Electric heat is very costly and a pellet stove uses a renewable resource.

    on Oct 07, 2012 · Like 0
  • Woodbridge Environmental ... Colonia, NJ
    Set back is a thermostat that lowers and raises temp using a clock. That would be what your looking to replace your older one with.

    Steve you need to be careful with those energy audits that the utility company provides for free or discount. It is really not a true energy audit but a energy evaluation. The difference being is the audit takes into consideration of everything that the house needs, and comes up with a ...»

    program in which the owner can choose what is best both for their payback and for their wallet. They do safety evaluations, look for energy loss, all sorts of things.

    While a energy evaluation is simply a sales tool to sell the product or products that the audit company sells. IN addition the power company, gas company etc does not do the evaluation. They have contracted with outside vendors who provide these services. As an example, the gas company would hire a HVAC contractor to come in and do the evaluation. Their only reason to be there is to sell you something, you may not need or want. While most of these guys look at the heating system. Ones with natural draft type of system is going to be flagged as something the owner needs to be replaced. Same with the cooling, If its an older unit, even though it works fine, they want to replace with a higher seer system.

    They are not doing a complete energy audit. Not at least at that time. They are required now in many states to do this in order for the buyer to get the rebates offered. But they do not do the complete audit until the sale is made. No sale, not true audit.

    My pet peeve with this program, at least in NJ is that I cannot be part of the energy star program unless I am set up as a qualified contractor with BPI and the State. While I do work for other contractors, I choose not to be part of a scam that makes people think that a BPI energy evaluation is truly a BPI audit. They use the BPI name as a sales trick. When I approached them and asked why can I not do true audits and guide the client through the rebate program, help them hire a contractor and do a quality evaluation on their work. They said no one has asked to do it that way so they did not set the program up that way. The biggest issue is that why I do not get involved with them is the money. The rebates that are given from the state are signed over to the contractor. With many in the range of 5 grand, and some as high as 10 grand the max. It takes the state two to three months to get paid back. A small contractor such as myself cannot bankroll that much money considering a good contractor may do a complete system every two days. So in two months will be waiting for $150,000 from the state in rebates that pay for the equipment and labor that one would need to lay out to pay the bills.

    Kevin, That dead band, is called a heat anticipater control. Its purpose is to prevent overheating of the room. These are found on many of the older round mechanical units. And are built in in the new computerized units. The reason for this control is to prevent overheating of a room. It sort of fools the thermostat into thinking that the room is really warmer then it is. If you turn it down to the lower numbers it then causes the room temps to go beyond the thermostat reading as it takes some time for the thermostat to see the room temps. It is set based upon the volt amp reading found on the gas valve or heating system control circuit. You are correct saying that if you set it up higher the heating system will cycle on and off as this control, which is really a tiny heater, warms up and shuts off the system, then cools down quickly and turns it back on. The manufacturer of the heating appliance as part of the install instructions provides the correct setting in which to use. With replacement units such as what Bernice would be using has instructions based upon the type of heat she has to where to set it.

    on Oct 07, 2012 · Like 0
  • Bernice H Yakima, WA
    KMS Woodworks kevin..we did have a pellet stove, both here and in our former house. We found the heat did not go down the hallway into the bedrooms. After a few years we removed it. It got too hot in the living room , and stayed cold in the bedrooms etc.I had to use a fan in the hallway which didnt take care of the probem. And the cost of pellets runs the same as our electricity ..really!
    on Oct 07, 2012 · Like 0

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