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Peace Painting Co., Inc.
Peace Painting Co., Inc. Professional Alpharetta, GA on Oct 30, 2011
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When faced with rotten wood ends and you don't need to replace the whole piece of wood, epoxy wood filler is a very

good patch. At $100./gal. it's not cheap but unlike Bondo, the material expands and contracts with the wood, never cracking around the edges. It sands very easily.
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    Dig out the soft part
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    In larger holes, we glue in pieces of PVC trim as a filler
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    It applies like a thick spackle; this is the first pass
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    After a second thin pass it was sanded, primed, caulked and painted.
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  • TonyaM Williams Atlanta, GA
    @Peace Painting Co.--this is a great info tidbit...so many people replace the entire door fram or the entire piece of wood when this happens. Since this material expands and contracts with the wood it appears that the strength of the corrected area would not be compromised. Great info thank you for sharing. TMW
    on Nov 01, 2011 · Like 1
  • Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA
    Thanks too, Tonya. It's rewarding to share time tested, value optimizing products, on Hometalk!
    on Nov 01, 2011 · Like 0
  • HandyANDY Home Renovation... Marietta, GA
    Tonya -many people replace the entire jamb because that's what they get talked into. HandyANDY repaired a front door jamb recently where the left, right & one center part of the frame was rotted. Unless you are an expert, you cannot tell that a repair was made. The cost was cost was about $275. We quoted the same work to the neighbor next door who had the exact same problem. He chose to pay someone else $1,200 to replace the entire jamb & reinstall the old front door. ...»

    There is an epoxy we have used in the past but only to repair unusual trim pieces that we couldn't make. I forget the name of it but it's a 2-part epoxy that I say in This Old House one time. Mostly we have the tools and ability to remake most trim pieces to match the old...like peace, we do alot of work on older homes in and around Atlanta. I grew up in a house from the 1700s and learned the trade working on older homes.

    Many homeowners simply get talked into doing whatever the "contractor" wants to do...which is usually whatever is best for his pocket. The other problem in our market is that the "contractor" was often something else not long ago and may not have a clue about how to do the work you hired him to do.

    Pat - no a silly question - we do often use SEASONED pressure treated wood (we've allowed it to dry out for at least 6 months) for replacing thresholds or even trim in areas that stay damp. Some of our gorgeous house designs created maintenance nightmares for us. We prime & back-prime it with an oil-based primer and have had good results.

    Theresa D - if you can be patient....we're in Gwinnett all the time....send me an address and we'll fix your problem at no charge. Where we can, we've started doing that for Hometalk clients....ticks me off that you paid in full and got ripped off...it just gives a bad name to our trade. Just be a patient....we're busy...I have one Hometalker who's been waiting about a month to get me on a roof...but it's worth the wait I think!

    Never pay a contractor in full until the job is 100% complete. Many of us will take deposits when the job is sold....with draws during the project if it is a larger one but most good contractors allow for the client to withold 5 or 10% from final payment until an agreed upon punchlist, if any, is completed. HandyANDY has it written into our contract that way and I'm sure Peace & Exovations do a similar thing.

    on Nov 02, 2011 · Like 2
  • Melissa A Fort Dodge, IA
    That stuff is amazing:) Thanks for sharing!!
    on Nov 02, 2011 · Like 0
  • AK Complete Home Renovati... Marietta, GA
    Wow! These before & afters are great!!! Can we blog these?
    on Nov 02, 2011 · Like 0
  • Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA
    Anytime, AK. Thank you for offering!!

    CP

    on Nov 02, 2011 · Like 0
  • Amber D
    Nothing in any wall or in any wood will go away permanetly in in my experience without first removing it, like a cavity, one of you said so well. Back painting is the key, and the epoxy is fine if the area of rot is tiny. if your good, and the area is small, you can mold the epoxy and bondo into the shape you want without putting in a new piece, but as already stated every job has its own variations and variables. Where, when, how big, and how bad have to be considered and solved before ...»
    anything should be done. For a job taking care of rot or molds should always be left to professionals with a large amount of experience. Problem solving comes from experience, and when somthing is rotting or molding there are not to many alternative solutions that work in the LONG TERM, even if they look good.

    on Nov 02, 2011 · Like 1
  • AK Complete Home Renovati... Marietta, GA
    Ok, Charles --> http://bit.ly/tuWubU -- What do you think?
    on Nov 03, 2011 · Like 3
  • Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA
    Just classy, AK, there were no wasted words and no embellishment either. Concise and interesting, I would be a believer if I weren't already! (-: Thx 2X! CP
    on Nov 03, 2011 · Like 1
  • Culpepper Carpets and Int... Atlanta, GA
    Oh my gosh AK, that is beautiful! Charles, they made you look so good! LOL
    on Nov 03, 2011 · Like 1
  • Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA
    That, a little varnish and some candle light and I look well preserved. (-;
    on Nov 04, 2011 · Like 1
  • AK Complete Home Renovati... Marietta, GA
    (I think the fumes are getting the best of him) =) I think getting blog ideas from Hometalk connections makes such a great partnership!!
    on Nov 04, 2011 · Like 1
  • Designing Home INc. Marietta, GA
    What about load coming from header to the rotten jack and transfer to the slab or foundation? Is that material load barrier?
    on Nov 04, 2011 · Like 0
  • SawHorse.net Atlanta, GA
    The load from the header should be carried by jack studs below the header. The jamb is held in place by the casing on the interior and exterior and also shims on the sides.
    on Nov 04, 2011 · Like 0
  • Nichter's Home Services C... Islesboro, ME
    Yeah, as I see in the photos, the rot was in the door jamb, not the wall framing
    on Nov 04, 2011 · Like 0
  • Designing Home INc. Marietta, GA
    But guys, if you check the blog made by AK, there is one more picture that shows rotten not jack and even floor plate and some more studs. that's why I was wonder.
    on Nov 04, 2011 · Like 0
  • Nichter's Home Services C... Islesboro, ME
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    I had not looked at the blog. In a case like that shown in the first photo, I would certainly do some replacing. That one is a different situation than this one is. I suppose he used that photo to get attention to the article, journalistic poetic license and all that....

    That one would probably get the bottom plate and stud bottoms cut off 5-1/2" inches up and ...»

    then I'd slide in a pressure treated 4x6.

    When working on a structural wall, I do use jacks of one sort or another to support or lift back up again.

    on Nov 04, 2011 · Like 2
  • Designing Home INc. Marietta, GA
    I agree Nichter's Home
    on Nov 05, 2011 · Like 0
  • Jan Britt Interiors Marietta, GA
    Thanks for sharing such good ideas!
    on Nov 05, 2011 · Like 0
  • Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA
    You're welcome, Jan (:
    on Nov 06, 2011 · Like 0
  • HandyANDY Home Renovation... Marietta, GA
    It's awesome AK...you're blog is great! I may disagree with the epoxy repair...but that's just me.
    on Nov 06, 2011 · Like 1
  • Jan Britt Interiors Marietta, GA
    Thank you all for all of this good informative information.
    on Nov 07, 2011 · Like 1
  • Jim P Fairburn, GA
    I have a job like this to do. I plan to replace the wood. I bought replacement door jams from Lowe's that are treated. I will use a 2 part reson glue to bond the wood and also biscuits to make sure every thing is lined up. Thanks for the tip of killing the rot spores. The replacement door jams match the existing frame, even to the groove for the door seal.
    on Dec 18, 2011 · Like 0
  • Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA
    That sounds like a good plan, Jim. Be sure to caulk around the bottom well to prevent the same scenario from occuring.
    on Dec 22, 2011 · Like 0
  • Culpepper Carpets and Int... Atlanta, GA
    I thought you were in the Alps???
    on Dec 22, 2011 · Like 0

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