No it is not either of those. I know what they look like. This is more like a bush type. The stems are a purple red color and soft. The flower is maybe and inch wide. Not very big.
I think the nursery in town I shop at has those, but they grow them in hanging baskets. They hang down and get very long. They look exactly like yours, size of flower, color, the stems and leaves, etc. unfortunately I don't recall the name of it.
If i had a better look at the foliage I could tell you better, but my closest guess is Mexican Sunflower, aka tithonia. It's not the Swamp Helianthus, which has skinnier leaves. Definitely not echinacea or rudbeckia.
Check this site, the picture you show looks pretty close to the one at the site it is called Sanvitalia and is a tender perennial that resembles a zinnia so much that it is commonly called creeping zinnia. ‘Tsavo Yellow Ice’ http://loghouseplants.com/plants/shop/sanvitalia-tsavo-yellow-ice/
It is a Sun Flower, they come in all sizes, colors these day. I have enjoyed them for years, but I think some one did eat all of them this year. I plan to try again, and will put a fence up
hm...I have never seen a sanvitalia get 5' tall, but maybe there is a new variety that I am not aware of. Most sunflowers have pubescent leaves (fuzzy like), the leaves on the picture don't look fuzzy to me. Most sunflower have alternate leaves, the leaves on the picture appear to be opposite (could be wrong the picture is a bit out of focus).Some Helianthus do have red stems, but they are alternate and not opposite leaves, and they are the right height range. Hope that helps.
After reading all these posts I went searching the web. I think you may have a crossbreed between a sunflower and a coneflower. They are related. Not one of the pictures of the flowers mentioned here look like yours. Either the center or the petals are different, or they have more rows of petals, which is why I believe its a hybrid. Your flower looks similar to both of them in one way but not the other.
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Possibly a coneflower or rudebeckia. Can't find any matching the center portion.
is it black-eyed susan
No it is not either of those. I know what they look like. This is more like a bush type. The stems are a purple red color and soft. The flower is maybe and inch wide. Not very big.
I think the nursery in town I shop at has those, but they grow them in hanging baskets. They hang down and get very long. They look exactly like yours, size of flower, color, the stems and leaves, etc. unfortunately I don't recall the name of it.
Thanks for the answers, but I'm still hoping for more ideas.
I think I'll take a cutting to my fav nursery and see if they have the answer.
Maybe a hanging Zinnia?
Swamp Sunflower Helianthus angustifolius Loves moist areas in full sun. Can get over 6 feet tall!http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=swamp+sunflower+helianthus+angustifolius&qs=AS&sk=IM1&FORM=QBIR&pq=swamp%20sunflower&sc=8-15&sp=2&qs=AS&sk=IM1
Its a sunflower. Just not your typical breed.
If i had a better look at the foliage I could tell you better, but my closest guess is Mexican Sunflower, aka tithonia. It's not the Swamp Helianthus, which has skinnier leaves. Definitely not echinacea or rudbeckia.
Heliopsis (Oxeye daisy) Maybe 'Summer Nights'
Check this site, the picture you show looks pretty close to the one at the site it is called Sanvitalia and is a tender perennial that resembles a zinnia so much that it is commonly called creeping zinnia. ‘Tsavo Yellow Ice’ http://loghouseplants.com/plants/shop/sanvitalia-tsavo-yellow-ice/
It is a Sun Flower, they come in all sizes, colors these day. I have enjoyed them for years, but I think some one did eat all of them this year. I plan to try again, and will put a fence up
It is a Mexican sunflower. I have the exact same thing in my garden. Yes, about five feet tall. There is no question.
I would also say sunflower.
hm...I have never seen a sanvitalia get 5' tall, but maybe there is a new variety that I am not aware of. Most sunflowers have pubescent leaves (fuzzy like), the leaves on the picture don't look fuzzy to me. Most sunflower have alternate leaves, the leaves on the picture appear to be opposite (could be wrong the picture is a bit out of focus).Some Helianthus do have red stems, but they are alternate and not opposite leaves, and they are the right height range. Hope that helps.
Heliopsis. I have several in my gardens.
And the verdict is???
After reading all these posts I went searching the web. I think you may have a crossbreed between a sunflower and a coneflower. They are related. Not one of the pictures of the flowers mentioned here look like yours. Either the center or the petals are different, or they have more rows of petals, which is why I believe its a hybrid. Your flower looks similar to both of them in one way but not the other.