Kelly F
Kelly F
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Asked on May 30, 2012

FLOOR FINISH- Has anyone ever used Valspar Crystal Clear floor finish? (water based/nano shield) and if so, how was it?

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  • Peace Painting Co., Inc.
    on May 30, 2012

    Have not but Bona makes a great once and done, catalyzed water based, water-clear professional grade finish called 'Traffic'. You can find it at flooring distributors.

  • Kelly F
    on May 30, 2012

    I will read on that one. I want the fast dry super scratch resistant that comes with the nano particles in the finish. I raise/breed dogs and my floors take a serious beating. I refinished about 10 years ago and now there is not a single piece of finish left on my floors- The good news is it should make sanding easy. hehehe The Valspar Crystal Clear used to be by Rustoleum and was called Nano Shield. Used to only be able to get it at "distributors" and they would not sell to Lowes/Home Depot etc. But now it is Valspar- and Lowes/Home Depot carries it - it's about $50.00 a gallon. I need to cover 3,000 square feet with at least 3 coats. Ugh!

  • Kelly F
    on May 30, 2012

    Peace- are you able to purchase the Bona at Lowes/home depot? And have you found it to be super tough? It seems to be over 100 a gallon? Is this correct? And do you use a sealer under it? And how many coats are you applying? I am not going to stain- my floors get so hammered there is no point in staining. My problem is having no where to put my giant mission furniture while I do the floors. I am going to have to do like 1/2 of one room at a time or something? That's why I keep putting off doing the floors- Also I believe I read that the total cure time is actually 7+ days on the Bona. Do you find this to be accurate? And are you getting any clouding with 3+ coats?

  • Kelly F
    on May 30, 2012

    Also- I wrote Valspar above- but I think the nano shield is not Valspar but Varathane- So confusing when these companies sell their stuff and relabel under a different name? So I apologize for the error.

  • Miriam I
    on May 30, 2012

    Kelly, just FYI you can edit your post by hovering your mouse over the upper right corner for an arrow drop-down.

  • Kelly F
    on May 30, 2012

    Thanks for the tip ! I wondered how to do that!

  • KMS Woodworks
    on May 30, 2012

    Kelly...I'm a big fan of the varthane oil based poly. I prefer its look to the milky look of water based products for a comparison of some types of floor finishes check out this article I wrote http://www.networx.com/article/exotic-wood-floor-finishes-you-havent-s

  • Kelly F
    on May 30, 2012

    Thanks KMS. On my online woodworking forum- all my old carpenter wood finishing friends are telling me that a poly wont hold up to the abuse of my dogs and all the sand. I am leaning toward the osmo polyx hard wax oil- so I can reapply easily as needed in problem areas. Have you ever used polyX? And if so, how'd it work out? And where can I buy it? I can only find online sources.. boo hoo... was hoping the big boxes would have it but they dont.

  • KMS Woodworks
    on May 30, 2012

    I have not used that...but am working toward a project using "monocoat" http://www.monocoat.us/products?gclid=CNrv6OSqqLACFWkCQAody0x-YQ This Monocoat is a lot like Penofin's verde. Before we use this monocoat we are doing some wall reapairs ( 100 year old lathe and plaster home) For your particular use...tile seems the be the answer.

  • Kelly F
    on May 30, 2012

    I checked out the monocoat and I am concerned with longish dry time- especially when I will need multiple coats. I looked up the msds information for monocoat and it doesn't seem to have the solids/accelerators (for lack of a better word :0 that the osmo polyX has. I should tell you that I am not a huge "green" nazi- and am not afraid to use something that's a bit toxic- so long as it actually sticks to the floor and does the job. However the osmo polyx is actually a "green" product. Your thoughts on my thoughts? Update- on the monocoat they do have an accelerated product- but the cost is insane $150$ plus shipping for 1.3 liters. They say the accelerated product requires only ONE coat. I don't know that one coat will suffice around my house of many dogs and sand and water? Your thoughts?

  • Kelly F
    on May 30, 2012

    Not tile here. I live in a restored period Mission bungalow. Everything here is basically still original (bathroom and kitchen updated with period style). I restored the house myself. :) One disaster at a time. That's why I want a floor finish that I can just touch up every couple of years or as needed for problem areas.

  • Peace Painting Co., Inc.
    on May 30, 2012

    Wax is the most practical for maintenance with pet use.

  • Kelly F
    on May 30, 2012

    Peace- I have spent the entire day reading about floor finishes circa 1900. I am leaning toward pure tung oil, thinned with turpentine add japan drier and add some caranuba wax and candelilla wax to soften up the caranuba. Your thoughts?

  • Peace Painting Co., Inc.
    on May 31, 2012

    I'm not certain of the custom combo but anything like that sounds like it would work best and be 'period'. Floor men always will tell you to use a wax-like product if you have scratchy paws around.

  • Beverly P
    on May 31, 2012

    I have never used that, but we use nothing but Valspar paint..it si the best!

  • Linda G
    on May 31, 2012

    I love Valspar products..they are wonderful. Washable and very long lasting!

  • KMS Woodworks
    on May 31, 2012

    Kelly I did my master bedroom using just basic linseed oil. The floor up there is about 10 years old now and still looks great ( aside from the occasional dust bunnies in the corners) The wood floor itself is Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry) which is already a very durable wood, with a Janka hardness rating at 2350 or so. Where my partner Tori has her studio bench and crafting area the floor was seeing some serious abuse from the rolling chair spilled supplies etc. I did a very light touch up sand there and re-coated that area. The best advantage to a oil or oil /wax finish is it SO simple to touch up. Unlike a surface finish, where the entire room needs to be completed http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmswoodworks/4526483527/in/set-72157623938796966 http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmswoodworks/4503612021/in/set-72157623780038058 The first pic was during the install ages ago...the second pic shows the color after the oil was applied.

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