This building is 12ft 5inx 20ft . Do I have enough roof support ?

Lai31265055
by Lai31265055
The building is divided into 2 rooms 12.5 x8 and 12.5 x 12 and the roof has a 3 ft. Pitch. . I want a catherial ceiling in the 12.5x12 room. The gable ends will be addressed with 2x6’s and 16 in centres.
Removed 3 beams that look like the one in this photo
To the right in front of the 2x8 sheet of pink insulation there will be a wall going across the room with roof support.
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  • William William on Nov 10, 2017

    Those cross beams actually were holding the walls in and square. Removing them weakened the structure at the ridge and walls can bow out. Also some of the joists look like boards were sistered to them. What I would do is install joists hangers at the ridge and at the walls. This will help in preventing the roof from collapsing and the walls bowing out from the joists. Otherwise it looks good.


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    • Bryan's Workshop Bryan's Workshop on Nov 12, 2017

      Awesome William!! I want to give you a high five for all of your fantastic answers!

  • What do your local building codes say? Did you pull a permit?

    • Lai31265055 Lai31265055 on Nov 10, 2017

      I do not know. I thought it would be standard across the board. would that be available on line?

  • Linda Webb Linda Webb on Nov 10, 2017

    I'm not sure I understand your question.

  • Jason T. Lee Jason T. Lee on Nov 10, 2017

    I need a little more info to tell you what you need. I can’t tell what spacing you have between rafters from the pictures. I also can’t see what part of the country you’re in. Snow loads play a big roll in the north. Coastal areas have wind loads to consider. Be sure to find out what the codes for your area are to be safe.

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    • Lai31265055 Lai31265055 on Nov 11, 2017

      thanks

  • Edith Siegel Edith Siegel on Nov 10, 2017

    It looks a bit week to me. Your area is small but a bit of strengthening would be good.

  • Please check your local building codes and pull a permit before you go any further. Generally codes are available on line. Inspectors are not kind to those that do not follow protocol. Ignorance is absolutely no excuse. There are generalizations, but no true standard "across the board" no matter what they tell you in contractor school. The South and Eastern Seaboard have hurricanes, the middle of the country has tornados, the West Coast has earthquakes, and different codes to go along with the territory. Here in CA they would take the entire structure down and make you start all over. Plans and surveys need to be submitted and approved then you get your permit. Foundation roughed in and inspected, utility tie ins, and so on. When my girlfriend and her hubby built a house from the ground up, I had to learn North Carolina code quick, and luckily they are nice in the South and since I was so diligent to do everything correctly, they held my hand and walked me through it. Being from CA it wasn't that hard but you never want to tick off the people you need to inspect your property and project.


    It looks good to me, but I am begging you to get the proper paperwork in order. What happens if you build it with no inspections then you can't get insurance for it? If you or the insurance guy lie, that's fraud - you don't want to go there. The ramifications start to snowball. The county and state are going to come after you with additional penalties and property tax assessments, you could get sued, it can get ugly very very quickly.


    I have seen it all happen and is not pretty and very expensive. I have seen good people go bankrupt. Please, please do not be one of those statistics!




  • Mary Ellen Waithe Mary Ellen Waithe on Nov 10, 2017

    No matter how big an undertaking it is, go to your county's building department and get a permit. You live in earthquake and wildfire country. Your insurance will not cover injuries to you or others if that shack collapses. You may be required to use fire-retardant materials, keep it away from property lines, etc. The previous writer is not undestating the perils to you. Get a permit and use only construction materials and values (spacing, etc.) that are approved.

  • William William on Nov 11, 2017

    Add the joist hangers and you'll be fine. especially with the dividing wall adding extra support. I wouldn't be concerned about codes or inspections. The building has been up 50+ years so the construction was grandfathered in. Building codes and inspections come in play if you were going to demo it and start from scratch. People have done major remodeling and circumvented building codes.

  • Ljones Ljones on Nov 12, 2017

    How would I be able to hang furniture from the beams.