How do I waterproof a basement?

Tammy
by Tammy

Need to know how I can waterproof my basement .The price for professionals to do it is 10,000.00 can not afford to have it done so have to try to do myself thank you

  5 answers
  • Tami Dean Tami Dean on Aug 25, 2018

    You can buy 5 gallon buckets of snow seal that they use on top of travel trailers. Roll on with paint roller.

  • Ted Rowland Ted Rowland on Aug 25, 2018

    The average person cannot do this. The old way was to dig down outside the basement wall to the very bottom of the basement, and coat it in wet stick tar with a mason's brush, or steel trowel, and then take 6 mil plastic and stick it to the wall. Allow a foot above ground. The plastic sheet, (comes on 50 ft and 100 ft rolls, usually 10 feet wide, is stuck to the wall after coating the entire wall, and letting it roll into the ditch you have dug. Then use a couple of yards of gravel on top of that plastic, (about 3 inches deep along the bottom of the trench, and put all the dirt back in. It will take a couple of years for the dirt to settle to where it was, and you will have a 3 inch slope from the house out. (Called positive drainage). This is cheap, but a lot of hard work, and can last up to 100 years. The companies, cut the concrete floor out inside, and it requires diamond saws, (The water cooled blade is about $1500.00 dollars alone), and a lot of specialized trades, such as concrete workers to put in expansion joints, plastic pipe, and concrete to replace what was removed. You could do the entire house for about $100.00 if you're not lazy and willing to work to dig the trench. You might can find locally some one with a small Bobcat with backhoe attachment, to dig the trench for $1800.00 dollars or so, and do the work of coating yourself. BE SURE TO CALL THE FREE NUMBER IN YOUR AREA, FOR THE UTITLITY COMPANY TO COME AND MARK WHERE THEIR UNGROUND UTILITIES ARE, BEFORE ANY DIGGING! i'VE DONE THIS SEVERAL TIMES WITH A MATTICK AND SHOVEL

  • Ted Rowland Ted Rowland on Aug 25, 2018

    After reading what I posted, I realized I didn't tell you to dig the trench 30 inches wide, so you will have room to stand and work. I also take a construction trash bag, and cut out for arms and head, and slip it over me when I am applying the wet stick mastic. Big rubber gloves that come at least halfway up my arms. You will need an 8 ft. step ladder. Do one wall at a time if you hand dig. Make sure someone is with you, to prevent problems. You may find after doing the main wall that is leaking, that that is all you have to do to stop your basement from leaking. Or you may have to only do 2 walls. I have gotten away in the past, that only one wall had to be done. (usually the wall that faces the back yard for some reason). I wish you success..

  • Jo Jo on Aug 25, 2018

    "It Depends" is the whole of it. If your basement takes on a lot of seepage and floods the only way to seal it may be from the outside. This usually requires digging around the entire basement to put apply a moisture barrier. As well as putting in drains to keep water away.

    There are interior roll or brush on barriers to reduce moisture but if there is too much water trying to get in from the outside the interior sealer will fail.

    I am not a pro on basements, just life's lessons.

    It totally depends on your situation, water levels, and drainage. I'd concentrate on getting the water away from the basement. Good luck, I truly hope you find a solution.


  • Dwp7470b Dwp7470b on Aug 25, 2018

    Very extensive Excavation Labor and Machines rentals is the primary expense and reason for that estimate.

    It is only slightly high in your regards, and pending the factual unseens and circumstances of those Buried Treasures That all contractors sarcastically refer to, the estimate may actually be low, and undersell of their labors and not experienced of the actual hidden costs.

    I would estimate $17000 because I am a worker not a gambler.

    Better it is to give a rebate after than to fall short sooner, I always say.

    However, the actual materials of Tar, 8 bags of Finishing or Topping Cement, and Shipping grade plastics or Tarpaper, are not really that expensive atall, less than $1600 to $2200 dependent on the actual Spread and Lay of the land and whether you excavate on hand.

    You can't buy good weather...

    Now granted if you have a Hill that leads water to the home, this is a major removal that may need a dump truck rental for 5 days, at an expense of $40 to $60 a day [Sadly, You can't just toss soil in a U- haul] plus fuels and that would reduce my estimate to 16.5G.

    So really because excavation always creates that hill if you don't have a dump truck nearby, you are talking $2800 on materials and necessities, just to begin the project, if you have all the tools and blades.

    If you do not have a recopricator saw, you may be talking $300 on that and masonry bits, whether you buy or rent it.

    After that comes assessments of any piping and the essentials to 'Control Flow'.

    Always remember: a leak is always a place where a drain should have led to a pipe with a shut off valve and a means to empty that into the sewage, but didn't so lead.

    That is what you would need to prioritize too.

    These can run you between $600 to $1600 atop the preexistent $3100 materials & Tools.

    Not sure if you work, but for myself, taking 12 hours off of work costs me a crazy amount of money, and as I am semiretired this semi costs me a semi-truckload of materials every month...

    For 17 grand a day, I will try my best to refrain from profanity...

    So basically atop that you add another 30% for the 'Unseen factors' you get $3100×1.3=$4030 as the estimated maximum materials budget and this of course does not include: Pressure washer, crane nor fuels nor eats nor drinks, but Unseen factors only.

    Unseen factors include rain and other elements of suprise that may undo efforts or arise additional materials necessities, such as: Defective Materials or Patching only half the Leaks, to find a New Leak after the fact. [ Hence why you excavate entire and pressure wash the entire, cement the entire and tar the entire too, put in some plumbing and so do whether it seems to need it or not, trust me, in 30 years you will be happy you did the extra efforts]

    Do keep in mind (speaking of extra efforts) this may take you 12 weekends or 3 whole weeks to fully excavate singlehandedly, on average it takes 180 man hours, Or 15 crane or front end loader hours.

    Hours theirs include you getting it to the jobsite and in place.

    These hours fly by fast, as: It is Fun.

    That said, you likely will want to rent a Front end loader. Not Cheap. Call around. And Cover the Children's ears when you are on the phone.

    You will need at least 50 gallons of Gasoline just to fuel it onsite for the first day with 10 portable 5 gallon tanks.

    No, Exxon don't deliver gas...

    Sorry.

    So, you probably need these 10 tanks too.

    That is another $80.

    It is always smart to have those ready and filled before you even rent the crane so you can make good use of the crane hours.

    Cranes do not sleep.

    Can't fill a concrete mixer at the pump, that's sure.

    I wish we could but we can't. Legally. EPA would crawl on my back for Deisel in the mix.

    First mistake anybody Novice does with a front end loader is? Not make a mound. You need to climb a ladder, maybe in the rain too if you do not build a mound large enough to fuel it easily.

    Breaking a Leg onsite creates a costly delay to excavation.

    These suck gas like 300 lb Gorillas or anteaters suck ants.

    You do not want to climb in and out of that front end loader to then climb that ladder 50 times a day...

    So you build your mound by hand, excavate the first foot by pitchfork and hose and shovel and hoe, to reduce your hours of rental by 3 hours you spend 16 hours on a weekend.

    You want to pack that mound like a brick so you can walk up and down safely, in any weather.

    It is a good Idea to have 80 to 140 bricks handy, so you can make steps to the front end loader to fill it with gas, quick like.

    After that malarchy is done you can then excavate about 6 to 16 tons of soil, a day.

    Again depending on the actual length of the site, the scale of the job varies.

    Regardless you can be talking $1400 to $2200 on the Machine Cost, reliant on how fast you move that soil.

    Can't move it too fast, you crack the foundation or break the front end loader.

    Can't move it too slow, you break the bank.

    Sure as heck can't bump the house.

    So...our estimate as is, is swiftly approaching the $5400 to $6000 marks.

    You should consider a shed to put all these extra things in: 10 Gas tanks, bricks, concretes, mortars, saws, tools, etc.

    That can range between $600 and $1400.

    Consequently, That's about what the security deposit on the front end loader will be anyways, so you may or may not get a shed, depending on the condition you return this front end loader back...

    I hope you do, but hope does not restore a front end loader to original pick up condition.

    So...we are at $7400 for a diy machine excavation, max with installation of pipes, valves, sewage, constructing mounds, steps, and Maybe a shed too, [you gotta wholly construct after you need it most, which is your pay as a husband, provided you do get your security deposit back...]

    Is all this hassle worth a savings of $2600+Shed?

    Not if you already have a shed...

    [I am betting you likely already do, as to the actual reason why the estimate was so generously low...

    Otherwise he is doing it by paid hands rather than machine, and these will be eating an amount of food equal to a shed sized pantry anyhow, no real difference in the Machine Estimate to Manpower estimate, the difference is how fast the job does]

    Now, if you wanna enslave yourself rather than buy that mancave whatever you wanted with the excesses, you are likely charging yourself $9200 rather than $13800 as inclusive the 180 manhours equivalent of wage for a General Laborer.

    However, once you do get it excavated it is nearly done. All you need to do is find the actual leaks by pressure wash, drill em out with your masonry bits, place your pipes and drains, tar around those pipes, place your shutoff valves, tarpaper and plastic and tar the entire, then fill in the trench and grade the soil to an extent you have a slope away from the house.

    It is alot of work guy, even by machine it is loads.

    [I'd oversee it for $3200 wage, with 14 guys each paid $260 each day and likely do all of the pipes vintage styled out of concrete weself, beforehand to save enough money to blast some stump out, 300lbs, so the job can blast out in 2 phases each a day or less and do a wide pour of 3 to 6 cubic yards, after placing the drains, pipes, crushed stone and cinder blocks to close the deal by finally tarring that bad behemoth with 350 tar gallons poured in between the concrete and plywood forms after that all was set and cured. The whole

    Damn thing'd last 180 years for 18 grand.]

    I wish you all skill and patience in this: No small undertaking atall whatsoever.

    God Bless & Be safe.


    In summary:


    If you do wanna negotiate with the guy offering to do the job for 10 grand, press him for at least an 80 years guarantee on the job, but if he starts atall haggling, he does not know what he's doing, and as suspect to go cheap, you go get someone else.

    Same applies to any: a Good job on any home will endure, and they must know a timeframe of that durability to do a good job.

    Guarantee although it is always less than the life or estimated durability, is always a guage of the actual materials quality these intend to use much more than Price they Quote is a guage.

    As any other guage, is a tool we use wisely, also, you too must use that guage wisely too.

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    • Dwp7470b Dwp7470b on Aug 27, 2018

      What I am saying is that usually on a job like thus, it is not a DIY. Even for a Contractor it is a DIT. [Do it together].

      When expecting I to give advices which you base as inaccurate on DIT, not DIY to persons not ever involved in any formal DIT, you will find that the info is better to depict that DIY is a headache and they should enlist 2 or more friends, for their own safety.

      DIT results a much swifter and far less problematic of anything than DIY.

      As far as Machine Rentals go, I am not sure how you make money by this suggestion that you rent it out for a weekend for $240.

      As I cannot even get a Lawnmower at $240 rate, I presume it is Lawnmower Grade or Equivalent.

      I presume you likely don't make much money, and also often complain of not having money and wonder why: Ends do not meet?

      Last time I involved in a Front End Loader, it was $80 an hour, and we were done a 'Small Excavation' in 2 hours, because we had an experienced driver. The cost? Not $160 on rental for a SMALL Excavation, nor that $240 for an entire weekend as you suggest occurs, try: $320 because it was not the responsibility of they to arrive it onsite plus any time of use is not by a Ticker or like a Cab that you pay when you get on the Street, nor do they operate a towing service, but instead: The Second it leaves the building to the time these finish inspecting for damages upon return.

      And, Then the Hour rounds to the Next Full Hour not Fifteen minutes Back, and your time includes setup, etc and they doing an inspection on return.

      Atop that, This Job is not a Small Excavation to install 1 Sewer Pipe; if he has 14 Leaks seperated across 28 feet, he may as well just Place Cinder blocks and Pour out a whole new addition to the basement and be done with it.

      The more leaks it has, the more dig he needs do, and more dig equals additional $80 hours.

      Far as how staff eat? Again, that by any Real employer is a Priority, I gotta presume you never earned money, by Employing People for more than a Cookout with Babyback Ribs in a BYOB DIY Circumstance, where $50 of Ribs was the pay.

      These people have families.

      These people bust their backs.

      The least you can do is pay them enough that their family does not go hungry.

      Hungry Staff IS the Employer's Concern even though you suggest that Employees gotta fend for theyself.

      I do not know what Aborigine Tribe is issuing Business Licenses in your area.

      Those who suggest it isn't are not an employer but instead, these are: Hick, Savage, Unemployer, Underemployer, and an Askhole [No typo, these ask alot of questions...].

      None of those are employers.

      None of those are professionals.

      Further to then atop this insult to I and any others who factually do Employ Family Men, you exclude the fact that these Front End Loaders consume fuel.

      They do.

      Fuel is responsibility of the Party who is Renting the Vehicle by the hour not the Owner of the Front End Loader.

      Especially in Cities, where some ass does not intend to bring it back, but drive it from Maine to California and leave it on the roadside.

      Thus going on my experience of: It is best to Bid High and Rebate Later, with GOOD News for the client, than to bid low and go cheap on materials as a last resort alike the desperados do,

      I provided General Information, on a basis: because this estimate is 10G, great likelihood is that this is by no means a factual estimate [but instead Rounded by a Person who does not know what scale of a job this is, yet. Not Small Job nor is it a Vast Job, but instead in this case, estimate providers recourse: 'A large Job that is temporarily downscaled to medium, may win the bid by premeditating going cheap on materials, tools, etc if atall the problem gets larger than medium scale by Unseens excluded from the estimate, we go cheap on materials']

      Rest assured, this will go beyond any medium scale job, as: all exterior, near the foundation excavations do.

      This is an: At Foundation Excavation.

      And far as your suggestion I went high on tools?

      Again, Sawzall cost is $300, after tax, but going through 15 blades, is not included in the price, neither is the water to wash blades, neither is energy, nor handsoaps, neither are broken blades, nor safety gears: eyewear, respirator masks, gloves, etc. So that is around $520 in itself.

      My estimate was not high.

      My estimate included the 1.3× for the 'unseens and petty cashes'.

      This job does not do by Sawzall Alone.

      Let by Reuse of 2 Dull Sawzall Blades that come FREE with every Milwaukee Sawzall because the $240 lawnmower equivalent front end loader is a toy rather than a Machine.

      And far as your suggestion: 'This might not even be an exterior job'.

      Gosh.

      Really? Do you think somebody is going to estimate 10 grand, for Spraying Flexseal or Dabbing 350 Gallons of Tar indoors in 3 hours or less?

      No they don't.

      You would have to be half bonkers to even think that this is an Interior Job.

      Usually you deduct 3200 from the top of the estimate as Contractor Pay and Petty Cash, so that the Contractor can stay sane rather than go bonkers.

      The rest is materials, tools, blades, bits and staff.

      For $6800 budget on that? This has staff, only a few, and is likely a crack in a foundation wall, but because that assessment frightens doomsayers who do not know you can just cut that out and place fresh concrete, pipes or a door this guy is not telling the facts to homeowners nor does he, himself know whether the factual scope of the job may entail 10 Cubic Yards of Good Cement at $150 per cubic yard, after going through 40 Sawzall blades at $8 each and a few 2" Masonry bits to cut the Segment out, which may decide after they excavate by machine or hand for $3200 or less which option is cheapest:


      A. Tar and Face the preexistent

      B. Tar after placing Drains, pipes and Face the Semi-Demolition

      C. Necessity to expand the basement 12"


      Either way, if these were plausibly best done with a Bilco Door and Exit from the basement installed where the leaks are, do you think this would estimate beyond 6 grand?

      Nope, this is a wide spread of leakage not an estimate on a 4 hour job, [as the Contractor will not delay, but get out of there ASAP because he wants to earn profits and a reputation].

      This is instead: Lowest Estimate where the high end estimate is nearer to $22 500 and medium is $17 500, and as I do not know how these came up with $7 500 in Gifts to make the Materials Grade Suitable, [unless these intend already to be back in 10 or 15 years to charge $26 000 for 2 Half Jobs rather than do it right once, for: $17 500], I consider Entire estimate as Garbage or plucked from a hat or worst because No Materials Supplier ever charges 10/17 even on Vast Bulk Purchases.

      Thus as this job is obviously over the head of the estimator, and you too, this is why I noted in the Summary:


      Get these to guarantee it for 80 years.

      And if he atall haggles get someone else.


      Yeah you can cut corners and maybe temporarily save

      A. $60 on a Sawzall not a Milwaukee.

      B. $30 per cubic yard by a Low Grade Cement

      C. $Machine Costs by rental of a Cheap and Semidysfunctional Garbage that will not pull up even a half ton of soil, sediments and stones without the scoop dumping it all back into where you took it from, [Until you deduce the Actual Scoop Capacity, that is]

      D. Use a lesser grade gas consuming FEL as part of C, rather than Deisel.

      E. Use less fine aggregates

      F. Scrimp on the tar.


      But as I said, the best way to save monies on this is not cutting corners on Materials, but to Prepurchase Fuels, Have the Tanks and Tarps Ready, be really prepped, have all tools handy, Excavate 20% or more by shovel, hose and hoe into a Hill and pack it down, so you have a place to park the FEL, and can secure a slope that draws water away from the home, and your trench rather than buries you while you are working in a rainy mud, so that you do not need to

      A. Purchase soils for making this grade, after the fact, rather than buy Cement and plan to do some minor landscaping of the grade.

      B. delay the hours of returning that FEL to the Owner, who will charge you $80 an hour, for something that FUNCTIONS, [not $240 per weekend for a piece of Trash with a 25 gallon Bucket equivalency That takes 60 weekend hours or more to move 4500 gallons rather than has an Industrial Grade 36" SCOOP with Sharps] that gets the Job of excavation Done in 15 hours or Less and faster than any Lawnmower Equivalent Front End Loader probably meritorious only of Pink Fuzzy Dice, that you may get for $240 a weekend rather than $80 an hour, and regret every Minute of the job being 6 times more laborious than it merits.


      Thus my estimate was well done. And you can stuff your opinion until you have actual on the job experience as a Contractor and exposures for as long as I.

      I mean really, once you said that: Employees need to fend for themself and it is not in the estimate, you were downgraded by I and others to a Very Improfessional and Insulting Person.

      Quite simply, you do not comment on other people's comments, you got a better idea? Better Estimate? Think my estimate was High? Great! Show up at this guy's home tomorrow at 9am, and do the entire job for $6800.

      Otherwise, as the saying goes: Put up or Shut up.