Sandra W
Sandra W
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  • Gilman, IL
Asked on Nov 9, 2012

overhead lights

Midlantic Contracting LLC / Midlantic Electric IncSandra WLandlightS
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We have a kitchen breakfast bar area that I would like to put some lights in the part going over the bar. But I was told this is a support wall (it is only about 4 1/2 inches wide) and there would be no way to run the electric for it. Any ideas without having cords hanging down?
9 answers
  • 3po3
    on Nov 10, 2012

    Can you post a photo? Why can't you run the wires in the ceiling?

  • Sandra W
    on Nov 10, 2012

    Here are some photos. I will try to describe. There may be a possibility that we could go through the attic on the kitchen ceiling side, and get the wires down to the area. But since this is a support wall and the place I need the lights seems to be the same width as a 4" piece of lumber, how would the wires get through that piece of wood?

    q overhead lights, electrical, lighting, This is looking upward to the area where I want the lights installed It is about 4 1 2 inches wide and about 12Ft long This is looking from the family room into the kitchenq overhead lights, electrical, lighting, Another view of the wall looking from family room As you can see the wall on the family roonm side has a vaulted ceilingq overhead lights, electrical, lighting, This is from the kitchen area The kitchen ceiling meets the area where I want the lights Kitchen ceiling is 10 Ft tall
  • KMS Woodworks
    on Nov 10, 2012

    You could run a type of pendant light, but not a can light like in the kitchen room. You would need to drill trough the "header / sill " plate of that wall. the trick will be to find a light that will fit within the 4 1/2" wide mounting surface.

  • Sandra W
    on Nov 10, 2012

    I didn't really want can lights. I was thinking of maybe some pendant lights as you suggested.. But I know I will not be able to find any that the plate for the light will fit in that 4 1/2 in surface. I am hoping someone really clever will have an idea. Maybe even a decent looking track light?????? Appreciate your comments and help.

  • LandlightS
    on Nov 11, 2012

    Sandra.....a very simple solution for your situation, If you have access to an electrical source on a wall very near the location of the beam, run a circuit to the beam and install a track rail. The you can add a pedant adapter and have you choice of a multitude of pendant lighting fixtures. For examples, look at these companies web sites....search under pendants and/or track lighting. All of these companies have a Low Voltage pendant adapter for the track, And all of the fixtures will be dimmable. www.waclighting.com/ www.techlighting.com/ www.accesslighting.com/.. www.lbllighting.com/ Have fun and I hope I was help in lighting up your life Gary

  • Sandra W
    on Nov 11, 2012

    Gary...I think you may have solved my problem. Yes, there are outlets at both ends , counter high where these lights will go. I am sending your info to someone and maybe they will be able to do it using the fusion jack system or the Quick Connect system that is on the sights you mentioned. Thanks much.

  • LandlightS
    on Nov 12, 2012

    Sandra...I glad you answered as I couldn't find this post. I'm not use to the new Hometalk...I searched through lighting, kitchens and even entered "trac rail" in the search box. I glad I was able to help. Tell them to use a live-end connector as close to wall with the electrical outlet. I would, if room permits, expand that single gang box holding the outlet to a double gang junction box using the outlet to supply power to the dimmer control, mounted in the same junction box, and feed the line to the top of the ceiling/beam area to the live-end connector to the trac. You may have a little dry wall work, but you will also have your pendant lights. If you need any additional help or info, contact me at landlights@gmail,com Gary

  • Sandra W
    on Nov 12, 2012

    Gary.....I have copied and printed your instructions to give to whomever we find to do the work. Once again thanks for all your help. Sounds like you know your stuff.

  • You mentioned an attic above the kitchen. If there is access to it then this looks to be a very easy installation. Any decent electrician should have no problem with this installation. Track mounted pendant lighting is perfect for this location. The area behind the vaulted wall with your iron style decoration should give you full access to all areas below it.

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