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Rainfull lake

This lake forms with each rain in varying degrees. It lies between ours and the neighbor's yard and over the years has been leaving our yard growing larger in the neighbor's. We approached them about putting in a drainage system and were told they did that 20 years ago and weren't about to do it again. This happens up and down our street between houses and as a group we had gone before the village council with complaints. This past summer street work was done which included larger piping and grates being installed. We were told the problem was fixed.
This is the reason our sump pumps work so hard and never seem to last. Does anyone have any ideas? I am open to all suggestions except moving.

taken from my back flowerbed looking toward the street
taken from the front looking back. My home is on the right
  • 360 Sod (Donna Dixson)
    360 Sod (Donna Dixson) Buford, GA
    on Dec 10, 2012

    hmmm...would your neighbor consider going half on having the problem corrected? If not your choices are to correct yourself with some drainage work maybe with the additions of a drystream bed to direct the flow and make it more manageable. Or create a bog garden to corral the water. http://www.landsteward.com/Images/water_garden_catpage.jpg

  • Z
    Z
    on Dec 10, 2012

    I'm no professional, but since it seems your neighbors don't want to invest any more money into this, would it be possible for you have some dirt brought in and raise your area by adding a terrace/brick wall of sorts at the lot line? Maybe one of HT's professionals can help with whether that idea would work or not. I would imagine you'd have to add some sand to your soil to help with drainage too. Maybe that's all you need is to have that area tilled with some sand mixed in.

  • Acorn Ponds & Waterfalls
    Acorn Ponds & Waterfalls Rochester, NY
    on Dec 10, 2012

    Hey @Dee W , Have you asked the town if you could install a drain that would tie into the street' drain?

  • Leslie D
    Leslie D Las Vegas, NV
    on Dec 10, 2012

    How awful. My only suggestion would be to take photos, approach the village council and threatening to turn this into the health department if something isn't done. This could be a great breeding ground for mosquitoes in the Summer if water sits for any length of time. It may be that the health department would force them into doing something about it....of course, they may also force you into doing something about it, so perhaps report a neighbor's address....someone you don't care for much....LOL

  • Francine P
    Francine P Houston, TX
    on Dec 11, 2012

    Dig a trench and install a french drain covered with a fabric sleeve and cover with bull rock, Dig your trench and extra 1/8 of an inch for every 10 feet or fill with fill dirt

  • Dee W
    Dee W Senecaville, OH
    on Dec 11, 2012

    @Z D@ Health Dept. is an avenue I have not thought of. This may be key to getting some help. We have a group of 7 homeowners who attend meetings and have tried working with the village. Our yard is the least affected thankfully. @360 Sod (Donna Dixson) -Thank-you for the link. We have approached the neighbor on this and they said the work had already been done. When they re-graded and paved the street, I asked the crew if there was a drainage pipe from this area they said "no". We had thought there may have been a break in the pipes, but now I don't know if this means the job was not done correctly or if the neighbors have fudged the facts(yes they are that type) @Z I have actually considered building our yard up just a bit, especially since this issue has been gravitating towards the neighbor's yard over the years anyway. Our concern is whether that may open us up to a lawsuit for making a change that negatively effects the neighbors @Acorn Ponds & Waterfalls No, we have not asked the city about that, basically because the neighbor had indicated that it was already done. Doing it ourselves may be the only avenue open to us at this point. Thank-you each for your insight and ideas.

  • Phil Bauman
    Phil Bauman Louisburg, NC
    on Dec 11, 2012

    All you need is a piece of wood, for a full day of entertainment, the original skim board. Ensure no rusty nails, for a better daay.

  • Z
    Z
    on Dec 11, 2012

    Again, I'm no pro, but I don't see how a terrace could make the neighbors water worse. It seems to me that it would keep as much water from standing as what normally gathered on your land would now soak into the ground. Oh wait, maybe it would eventually seep through the wall and into their yard. Okay, I think I see how that could happen. But then again, if you document that you've asked their help and they refuse saying they've already "fixed" it then it's on them. Do you have a lawyer you can talk to?

  • Deck and Patio Company "Outdoor Living Experts"
    Deck and Patio Company "Outdoor Living Experts" Huntington Station, NY
    on Dec 11, 2012

    Why not embrace the water? Create a pondless water feature that collects extra water and stores it underground. This reservoir would be use as the source for your water feature which will actually clean the water and make it usable for things like irrigation of your lawn and gardens, washing your car, topping off a swimming pool. A rain garden can also be added for excessive water that accumulates in the area. This garden of durable plants will absorb some of the water and allow some to naturally seep into the soil. Here is video about a large scale system, your could be smallerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KylUTvtcmPY This is 2 websites with more info http://www.rainxchange.com/ http://www.rainwaterharvestinggroup.com/

  • Chips Landscaping
    Chips Landscaping Porter Corners, NY
    on Dec 11, 2012

    You may want to consider a Rain Garden. We have had great success managing stormwater in our region with these functional and aesthetically pleasing gardens. It looks as if you already have a depressed are to work with. Taking the scope of that area, adding native plants that like their feet wet and can serve as a watershed of sorts up taking water and sludge for nutrients is eco-friendly. For areas such as this where the water collects quickly and pools, we install Aquascape Aquablox Water Matrix underground to quickly uptake the water and then allow the percolation back into the ground. We often design with stone, rock and mulch combinations depending upon the site specifics and customer interest. In this case we opted for full stone, cobbler to add a very distinctive rock garden accent to mulched areas in the front yard. with a little thought and good site design..beauty and function are possible!

  • Ponds Patios and Waterfalls Co.
    Ponds Patios and Waterfalls Co. Manchester, MD
    on Dec 11, 2012

    sustainable water feature. You could have a a wonderful water feature built on higher ground with the 'vault" that collect that rainwater underground to supply the feature as well as water your gardens. Check out www.Aquascapedesigns.com for more info.

  • Terrie Kaufman
    Terrie Kaufman Vancouver, WA
    on Dec 11, 2012

    I was going to suggest a water feature and saw that has already been thought of. Make lemonade out of those lemons and enjoy it!

  • Dee W
    Dee W Senecaville, OH
    on Dec 11, 2012

    @Phil B Aha! When my boys were younger it was a favorite place to play. @Z we have built up a bit around that side of the house and I have begun a long flower bed. @Francine P are you talking about a french drain? @Deck and Patio Company "Outdoor Living Experts" an inspiring video and honestly seems a bit intimidating. We do use rain barrels so with tying the gutters in and maybe adding the sump pump it is a viable option, unless cost rules it out. thank-you for all the links @Chips Landscaping I have looked into and considered a rain garden for the area closer to my home, because that is where the sump pump releases its load. A few plants had been suggested then and I am still thinking on it. @Ponds Patios and Waterfalls Co. a water feature would be pretty and since this sits outside my dining room, would be seen even if we were indoors. thank-you for the link Thank-you everyone for helping. I have alot to think about and research over the winter and although I hate to say it, the lowest cost answer will probably seem the most favorable. If we are able to do anything within the next year or so, I will make some additional posts to let you know.

  • KMS Woodworks
    KMS Woodworks Nederland, CO
    on Dec 11, 2012

    Does your street have a storm water system that is tied in to the sewer system? are you on a sewer system? or do you have a septic tank? From the look of your neighborhood it is flat as a pool table... and the road seems to be the high ground. You could install a large cistern type catch basin and fit that with a pump...this would be like a sump pump set up but larger scale and outside. The key to making that work is you need somewhere to pump the water too...if the city has a storm sewer this could work well.

  • Leslie D
    Leslie D Las Vegas, NV
    on Dec 11, 2012

    There is always this option, if nothing else works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEDTUtT8tIE

  • Sharron W
    Sharron W Memphis, TN
    on Dec 11, 2012

    LOL @Leslie D ...Someone you don't like much...LOL How about the uncooperative Neighbors... I put in my own drainage system some years back, including the "trenching" and Burying of lines, it's made a huge difference and except for ensuring that the elevation of the lines is sloped properly, it really wasn't that hard of a project...This looks like something you could do over a weekend to me...

  • Rocky Mountain WaterScape
    Rocky Mountain WaterScape Erie, CO
    on Dec 11, 2012

    I agree with Ponds, Patios, and Waterfalls, a sustainable water feature capturing the rainwater would be the way to go and add a little bit of beauty to that area instead of just mud.

  • Backyard Getaway
    Backyard Getaway Myakka City, FL
    on Dec 11, 2012

    Great suggestions in the comments, I think a rain harvesting system would be a great idea, it could even double as a pondfree water feature. Check out AWG rain harvesting system to get an idea of how to create it: http://atlanticwatergardens.com/rainharvesting.html

  • Jeanette S
    Jeanette S Atlanta, GA
    on Dec 12, 2012

    You say this is happening around in the neighborhood so you are not the only person who has this problem...even your neighbors worked on it but are now disappointed. Why not research the suggestions given, gather together some neighbors who might be interested in fixing their problems and form a "get 'er done" group. The biggest cost in any project is usually the labor. A dozen home owners working a couple of weekends a month could clear up the entire neighborhood in a summer. If you lay out a plan that is environmentally friendly and get some interested neighbors, you can even apply for a grant to pay for the materials and some skilled assistance. Keep in mind the annual rainfall so you will know what you are dealing with. And water collected in wet periods can be used in dry periods, etc. Even without a grant, a cooperative effort makes it more fun!

  • Joan A
    Joan A Warrensburg, MO
    on Dec 13, 2012

    Being I couldn't get help by the neighbors or the community I think I'd buy a couple of loads of a good top soil and have "my" area built up. Starting at the house and working my way out I'd make it a gradual slope away from my home but being careful not to make it slope directly to the neighbors home either. Then seed it.

  • Brian Bogia
    Brian Bogia Dover, DE
    on Dec 13, 2012

    build a french drain system that connects to a stream

  • Linda H
    Linda H Dalton, GA
    on Dec 13, 2012

    dig it out for a pond and line it so it won't go into your basement, put plants and stones around it on a slope to drain water into it.

  • Brackett Manor Bed & Breakfast
    Brackett Manor Bed & Breakfast Saint Joseph, MN
    on Dec 13, 2012

    The "pond" idea is nice, but the problem is that the water is'nt just comming from above; It's comming from "everywhere"I agree with the "French Drain" idea. however, from what you're telling us, I'm doubtful if the city/county actually does have an adequit outlet for the drainage, if they did, and the homes were built to code, then the foundation drains would be doing their jobs to drain off any water intrusion. It would seem that nothing about resolving this issue is going to be inexpensive (or easy), but "please"! do'nt waste your money on a water feature 'til this is resolved. Ya gotta stop the water from getting to your foundation first...

  • Tim Sargeant
    Tim Sargeant Canada
    on Dec 13, 2012

    make a pond and put some fish in it make the best of low land or bog type plants like Giant Gunnera and Arundo Donax

  • Erica Sheppa Love
    Erica Sheppa Love Platte City, MO
    on Dec 13, 2012

    I would look into putting in some kind of pond. With your type of house it would be very pretty and relaxing.

  • Elizabeth Bauernschub
    Elizabeth Bauernschub Silver Spring, MD
    on Dec 13, 2012

    Call the enviromental control in your county. It's a mosquito trap.

  • Deborah M
    Deborah M Harpswell, ME
    on Dec 13, 2012

    There must be a spring there somewhere. I would say build up around it so water doesn't leave,,,,,,drain it and watch where the water the water comes in I doubt it's from rainfall. Be a great duck pond and ice skating. My friend had the same problem they dug it down 2 ft and ducks fly to it all the time. and put up a bat house or frogs or you'll have plenty of dragonflies come anyway.

  • Diane Brizzolara
    Diane Brizzolara
    on Dec 13, 2012

    I'm not an expert by any means but since this is a shared problem, I would contact your local co-operative extension service.

  • Judith O
    Judith O Glenview, IL
    on Dec 13, 2012

    Plant a rain garden with beautiful bog plants. Improves the looks of your yard, helps control the water problem, & purifies the ground water. Our village subsidizes costs if you follow their suggestions. Do some research online. Good luck.

  • Shannon at Fox Hollow Cottage
    Shannon at Fox Hollow Cottage Portland, OR
    on Dec 13, 2012

    When building plans were submitted for your neighborhood, the builder did not make allowances for proper drainage/the city should not have approved the plans. It never should have passed inspection.

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