Asked on Jan 07, 2015
I need help identifying these plates
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Rita
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Does anyone have any idea about who makes these plates or the history behind them? I cannot read the markings of who makes them beyond that they are made in French for Molin. Thank you in advance.
21 answers
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Made in France, not french. And God bless France today
Rita
on Jan 07, 2015
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replacementsltd.com might be able to help you.
Sharon C
on Jan 08, 2015
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Replacements can id anything!
Sally holway
on Jan 08, 2015
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I will ask them. Thanks.
Rita
on Jan 08, 2015
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Molin is in the central (Loire) region of France, which is where the piece may have come from. I have searched Kovel's and cannot identify the signature on the back. It looks as though it begins with an "L" and is a name. It could also be the name of the design/pattern of the china. The words "pour Molin" mean "for Molin," which could have also been a seller or store for which the china was manufactured. I would also contact Replacements and provide them with your clear photos of the front and back.
Swan Road Designs
on Jan 08, 2015
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Thank you. I have searched, too, but I will try Replacements. Thanks so much.
Rita
on Jan 08, 2015
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OK, my photos are sent to Replacements. I checked with them from the get go but they didn't have anything already listed for these plates. We'll see what happens. They are so pretty. I will update. Thanks for the help!
Rita
on Jan 08, 2015
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Look on Google or Ebay
I love to paint and decorating
on Jan 08, 2015
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Thank you,, I love to paint. I have looked on both. I can't figure out what the inscription is to begin with. I've tried it all ways. I was hoping someone here had them. I found these at the GoodWill in Beverly Hills. LOL. Who knows. Maybe they were a movie star's dishes. :-) Any chance you know Dawn Therell or Coach Therell?
Rita
on Jan 08, 2015
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I found GEORGES MATHIEU (artist) signed his work Mathieu Paris pour Molin. Here is a link to a catalog with his work in it on page 37 on bottom left. The plates may a been from a designer collection made by him? Does not look like other work he did, but maybe it is sort of like Martha Stewart having a line of plates and bedding and housewares, etc.? http://www.accademiafineart.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/octobre1.pdf
Carol Oswald
on Jan 09, 2015
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You might be on to something @Carol Oswald. I just Googled "Georges Mathieu" signature and clicked on "images." The writing on the back of the china resembles some of the signatures Google displayed
Swan Road Designs
on Jan 09, 2015
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I picked up the scent you two started. It lead me to Invaluable.com There he sold a set of dishes that sold at auction. He signed them Mathieu Paris for Molin. I think this is the guy. You are BOTH awesome sleuths. I wish Invaluable.com would show the back of these dishes as his signature is very different at different times. Thank you again. I have NO idea how you two found what you found. THANK YOU!
Rita
on Jan 09, 2015
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@Rita, it will be interesting to see what information, if any, you receive from Replacements. Part of my investigative skills came from 30 years of dealing with antiques. My specialty was china, glassware and silver. My late husband restored/repaired/built furniture. Once you start digging, it's quite a ride sometimes where the road leads.
Swan Road Designs
on Jan 09, 2015
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How interesting. I;m not holding my breath on Replacements. We'll see. YOU on the other hand....that was amazing! Thank you.
Rita
on Jan 09, 2015
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No idea but they are gorgeous.
Candace
on Jan 09, 2015
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Still hoping for more clarification. Just doesn't make sense...
Rita
on Jan 11, 2015
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Where are the rest of the posts? I lost them :-(
Rita
on Jan 11, 2015
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(...) Since the early 1970s, Sèvres turned to contemporary painters - Georges Mathieu, Mario Prassinos, Calder, Agam, Alechinsky, Piza ... - to renew the decoration on porcelain.(...) http://www.larousse.fr/encyclopedie/peinture/c%C3%A9ramique/151531
Maryohbeautiful
on Jan 12, 2015
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About Sévres & Georges Mathieu : Identify a real Sèvres false /Brands of Sevres Sèvres porcelain marks are used to identify dates of manufacture and decoration, the paste used, the potters who have participated in the making of the piece. The signature contemporary creators is usually affixed. Manufacturing marks are still under glaze from the mid-nineteenth century; decorative marks are for their enamel.we owe the current Brand to Georges Mathieu who designed it in the 70S. http://www.sevresciteceramique.fr/site.php?type=P&id=17
Maryohbeautiful
on Jan 12, 2015
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All this to say that there was a Georges Mathieu painter that also work on porcelain and leave his mark in one of the most important factory using traditional methods (brands) of France.
Maryohbeautiful
on Jan 12, 2015
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So Maryofbeautiful, you also think these plates are by Georges Mathieu? I wrote to Replacements. com with the George Mathieu information. I will see what they say.
Rita
on Jan 12, 2015
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