Asked on Mar 10, 2016

Patio furniture: I need help with the layout

Mandy Loriot
by Mandy Loriot
I have a concrete patio (to be changed to something with stone later, but we just bought the house in November and have things higher on the to-do list) which measures 24'7" x 14'. The longer side goes along the back of the house. On the other long side is a hill with moss-covered granite boulders and a fairly steep hill going up to the trees (oaks mostly).
I'm going with the IKEA for the patio seating (Arholma) and depending on how the seating is positioned affects whether I go with the round Angso table, or the rectangular (two different lengths) Angso table.
My style is a more elegant old world with French country touches, and I plan to spray paint the faux wicker on the seating and add pillows that pull in the French theme, get a large outdoor area rug (or two, depending on furniture placement). I have attached photos to show how the backyard patio area looks.
Another thing I would like to do is either put a portable firepit in the middle of the seating if it's together, or if not, put an outdoor fireplace in the middle of the long side towards the hill.
I plan to put a potting table underneath the kitchen sink window with French planters on the sides with a pot trellis in each one with a climbing flowering Jessamin.
You can see some of the items here in my Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/caninephotos/outdoor-couch-cushionscoverideas/.
The attached photos are from the property listing, so we don't have any of that furniture. I strongly dislike the furniture the sellers have anyway. I included a photo of the front of the house to give an idea of architectural style.
Patio from the left facing the back of the house
Patio with back to the little corner area you see on the other patio photo
Front of the house (front beds full of gravel right now - ugh - to be landscaped properly later)
  17 answers
  • Dfm Dfm on Mar 11, 2016
    the best thing to do would be to measure each piece of furniture you have planned for the patio, and the patio space its self. find some graph paper- there are on line apps, map out your patio. take the measurement from the furniture and plot them out on a separate piece of paper, then cut them out. arrange on the patio template to a pleasing configuration. when you have a lay out that you think will work.....then go try it out with the real chairs. the one photo of the hillside-it looks like part of the hill gave way ie landslide. i would consult a landscape architect and see what they say. a knee wall may be needed.
    • Mandy Loriot Mandy Loriot on Mar 11, 2016
      They're was no landslide. I understand about the graph paper, but I can't figure out how to make it look right. I include the item information through the Pinterest link in case someone really good at furniture arrangement had a great idea.
  • Amy Riches Amy Riches on Mar 11, 2016
    What a beautiful home you have, I would break up the seating area with beautiful Planter boxes I would have the two swing seats together with a side table at each end for conversation. I w
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    • Mandy Loriot Mandy Loriot on Mar 11, 2016
      I would love to see the rest of your reply. It looks like part of it is cut off.
  • Amy Riches Amy Riches on Mar 11, 2016
    Having computer problems
    • Dfm Dfm on Mar 11, 2016
      @Amy Riches me too. ain't technology grand?
  • Candeelyn Candeelyn on Mar 11, 2016
    it doesn't sound like you are trying to arrange the furniture in the pics? Honestly with your details it sounds like you know what you want to do with it. Definitely some landscaping will cozy up the space. You can have the seating and fire pit area and then your table/ eating area. Maybe don't use rug in seating area if you choose the fire pit.The ideas you have sound great. I would just get your pieces and then lay them out, I think you've got the vision for it! Would be easier for us if the actual furniture was in the pic. Truly sounds like you've got it, lay it all out,play with arrangement until you are satisfied. If nothing else post again once you bring in the new pieces.( again assuming you're not trying to arrange pieces in pic) The small window is the kitchen sink window? Putting your plants there will create a nice view. Along with adding things around the outside of the patio. please keep us posted!
    • Mandy Loriot Mandy Loriot on Mar 11, 2016
      I'm asking for help because I don't know, and depending on the best arrangement, I have to choose a table. If you have any specific suggestions regarding the pieces I mentioned I'll look forward to reading them. Yes, the small window is the kitchen sink window. These are listing photos so that stuff was the sellers'.
  • Kathleen Conery Kathleen Conery on Mar 11, 2016
    It sounds like you know the style you want, it's just where to put the furniture? (I checked out your pinterest for the ideas) The patio is rather long so the first question I would ask myself is... how do I want to use the space? If I'm hoping for conversations then you want to be able to bring the seating in and perhaps around a central item like a low coffee table, or that firepit you mention. Those corner bench seating units you have pinned would all work fine, and you could bring in the style with the pillows. Do you plan to eat meals there? Then one of the two tables would work fine to the other side of the patio. You could echo the shape of the corner units with corner planter boxes on the table side. As to which table, rectangle or round... You could echo the angles happening the in the corners with the rectangle or echo the firepit with the round. But I don't know if I'd go with the round table if nothing else on the patio is rounded...
  • Johnchip Johnchip on Mar 11, 2016
    For one, a fire pit, not a great idea as it is not used much except some nights, rarely in the day, but should not be in the center of your space but up against the hillside. I would not do round table if you want a more formal French look. round is for pools. You could stain/paint the concrete for now in a stamped pattern to imitate stone , rugs will mold and become a seasonal and weather cleaning and storage issue. If you re putting any wooden furniture outside, clear coat it a couple times with a marine varnish or varathane if you wan it to remain clean and last.
  • DJ DJ on Mar 11, 2016
    Here's a thought...in the picture below substitute your gliders for the couches. with a table linking the two in the corner. Next take the little white kids table and put length wise where the drinks are maybe out a little. Next move your your table to the left so you can have a separate dining area. This is how my Sister in law has her set up and it works great. Kind of a kids/adult swing and talk area to the right when you come out of the back door. Then for convenience the dining table ready for food or snacks right at the back door. Good Luck..Love the House.
  • DJ DJ on Mar 11, 2016
    Sorry, That's on me for not reading the entire post....
  • MN Mom MN Mom on Mar 11, 2016
    Once you get the furniture you'll be able to see the space available to arrange it. I like the table and chairs on one end and a conversation group of individual chairs, anchored by the rug, in another spot. Consider a smaller tabletop fire bowl option or making a firepit area away from the patio. Add lots of your French inspired planters and flowers and enjoy!
  • Pgl Pgl on Mar 11, 2016
    How about moving your table and chairs towards the kitchen window and angling it. Place the flower covered swing were the green one is and angle it to complement the table. If you still feel you need the other swing place it were the flower one is but angle it more and put it further back. Now a couple of round top plant stands with a fern on it. Dress up the child's picnic table wit a few decals or paint some colorful bubbles on it. Love the boulders they add interest and a bit of drama.
  • Lynette Peavey Lynette Peavey on Mar 11, 2016
    I would get a piece of graph paper and draw your patio to scale (such as 1 square = 1 ft or even one square equals 6" if it will fit on the paper). Then take another sheet of graph paper and draw your furniture to the same scale (look at IKEA catalog/website for dimensions). cut out the furniture pieces (marked with what they represent). This will let you play with the arrangement by placing the furniture pieces on the patio and moving around until you like it. You can make a rectangular and circular table and see what you like best. I would also orient my furniture to take advantage of the view as much as possible. If I'm sitting outside, I don't want to be looking at the backside of my house for instance, I want to look at the beautiful green outdoors! I hope this helps.
  • Ann Ann on Mar 11, 2016
    Totally agree with Lynette. I prefer round tables for conversation but that's my personal preference. Highlight the view. Keep furniture together and separate from eating table so you have two rooms. Two rugs will help define your areas. Good luck. Beautiful yard.
  • Sarah A. Victory Sarah A. Victory on Mar 11, 2016
    I would separate the umbrella covered eating area from the sitting area and rugs will help you define the spaces as someone else also suggested. Good luck.
  • Becky H Becky H on Mar 12, 2016
    It's difficult to advise you without knowing what pieces you will be using. For sure, I would move one of the swinging seats to the lawn.
    • Mandy Loriot Mandy Loriot on Mar 12, 2016
      Please see the full question. Those are listing photos and not my furniture.
  • Dfm Dfm on Mar 13, 2016
    okay...start with the eating area- cook station closest to the kitchen, that's grill, table to eat at and chairs. place for cooler full of beverages, maybe set up on bricks? to reach easier... and possible side table for the grill. mind that the door to the house is not blocked. this makes for easy clean up, and keeping meats/ food stuffs at safe temps. the grill could be facing the eating space so the chef can join in on the conversation. next- the lounge- or conversation area-chairs in a semi circle to frame the best view of the yard. you want as many as possible to enjoy the view, and still talk face to face- ish. side tables or a coffee table ht. surface for beverages. if privacy from nosy neighbors is needed.....there are options. lattice panels, or post cemented in a large terracotta pot and strung together with clothesline decked with inexpensive curtains (think dollar store and shower curtains)
    • Annie Doherty Annie Doherty on Jun 07, 2016
      Hi I love your ideas these would make it a very sociable space. I have used your trellis idea in the past very successfully growing ivy clematis, jasmine or honeysuckle to cover the trellis giving privacy and some lovely scented flowers for you to enjoy. Great post thank you for sharing your ideas.
  • Mandy Loriot Mandy Loriot on Mar 17, 2016
    Mostly people were not helpful because they did not read the question thoroughly and see the furniture in the photos is not mine because they are listing photos. There were a couple of ideas that were answered to my question but most were completely unhelpful from stating the obvious to use dimensions and graph paper to the person who suggested I already know what to do. A couple actually have furniture placement suggestions regarding the furniture I'm actually using as explained and detailed in my question.
  • Elena Elena on Dec 17, 2020

    I see that I am late to this problem. Being a gardener, I would attack that Rock garden first. Build it up with more flowering plants and some evergreen shrubs. Like everblooming azaleas. They stay on the smallest size. Then after that I would stamp paint the concrete slab as that would be expensive to remove. Paint it in tile shapes you like.

    elena