Toilet lid nuts do nothing when turning

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The bolt on top does nothing when turning, but it's definitely connected to the lid. If I turn the lid bolt on top, the bolt does not turn, but I can feel they are firmly connected. I have no idea how this thing grips.

q toilet lid nuts do nothing when turning

Bottom side

q toilet lid nuts do nothing when turning

Top side

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  • Mike Williamson Mike Williamson on Oct 10, 2021

    Can the "wing" that is attached to the bolt be turned?

    If so, try to snug it tighter to the porcelain using pliers.

    Not too tight: you don't want to crack the porcelain.



  • Robyn Garner Robyn Garner on Oct 10, 2021

    Spray the seams/parts with WD-40 and allow to sit and loosen the connection. Once the rusty areas loosen you should be able to turn the connection. I can't tell from the pic but the bottom side should have a section where you can insert a screwdriver to keep it stationary while turning the bolt from the inside.

  • Cheryl A Cheryl A on Oct 10, 2021

    the bolts rust and get crude on them so use WD 40 to loosen it then try but you need to let it sit for a bit

  • Redcatcec Redcatcec on Oct 10, 2021

    The bolts are stuck together, you'll need something to separate them from each other. WD40 penetrates into the seal they have formed and breaks it. Try rocking and tapping it after the WD40 has had a chance to penetrate. You may have to eventually drill it out, but very carefully:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vdcBsK9x-Y

  • William William on Oct 10, 2021

    Use some WD40 on top and bottom and let it soak for a while. You'll have to grip the wing with a pair of pliers underneath and hold in place. There is a tool made for it. Then a pair of pliers on the top and gently turn it. Wrap a cloth around it so not to damage it. The wing part is threaded and screws into the top part. If that doesn't work you may need to use a hack saw blade and cut it off from the top. Tape around the top so not to scratch the porcelain.

  • Zard Pocleeb Zard Pocleeb on Oct 10, 2021

    There’s an outside possibility that the bolt is what’s called a ‘partially threaded bolt’ (see picture). These bolts don’t have thread down the entire shank. When they ‘bottom out’ they can seize up. Bottoming out means that there are no more threads to use. This is true especially if someone turned the bolt real hard. Try loosening bolt and remove it. Replace it and the toggle nut (the part it screws into). Make sure you use a stainless steel bolt and nut because it’s in a damp environment.

  • Mogie Mogie on Oct 10, 2021

    Give the hardware a shot of WD 40. But be careful I know someone who got a little too intense and cracked the porcelain. Use tissue or even a thin rag too keep your screwdriver from marring or scratching the toilet.

  • I'm wondering if there is rust. Spray a little WD-40 and give it some time to work.

  • Homeroad Homeroad on Oct 10, 2021

    You need to use a wrench to hold the nut while you use a screwdriver on the other side to turn it. WD40 may help.

  • Betsy Betsy on Oct 10, 2021

    Hi Yeray: If it's connected securely, then I'd leave it alone. There should be a washer between the bolt and wing nut. You don't want to tighten it too much as you risk cracking or chipping the porcelain. One should turn while the other doesn't, that's how it secures itself.

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    • Betsy Betsy on Oct 13, 2021

      You are very welcome. Another thing I found out is that there is rarely enough space to work :( Good luck with this and take your time, metal saw blades are way different than the regular saw blades. You can get a small metal saw at most home improvement stores. Just tell them what you are doing and they will direct you to the proper blade.

  • Chas' Crazy Creations Chas' Crazy Creations on Oct 11, 2021

    WD-40 works great to loosen them

  • William William on Oct 11, 2021

    You need to hold the wing underneath as you turn the top.

  • Simple Nature Decor Simple Nature Decor on Oct 11, 2021

    sounds like they are stripped or try little oil https://amzn.to/3BywNmz

  • Johnavallance82 Johnavallance82 on Oct 12, 2021

    Buy new or Use strong Glue as Thread has probably gone.

  • Dee Dee on Oct 12, 2021

    Loosen the bolts and get some plastic ones. The new toilet seats have plastic bolts and fasteners. Try the Kohler website and order new ones.

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    • Dee Dee on Oct 13, 2021

      WD 40, oil, vaseline, Although manufacturers vary in how they label their products, the spray oil you are looking for will be called “penetrating oil” or “penetrating lubricant”—even though it’s really not a typical lubricating oil, such as what is used to keep machinery gears running smoothly.

      Penetrating oil is a petroleum-based oil with an especially fine viscosity—so fine that it can be sprayed as a mist, and so fine that it will find the smallest openings between metal parts and penetrate them. Because penetrants have such low surface tension, they can seep into almost invisible crevices and over time loosen metal connection that appeared to be rusted solid.

      True penetrating oil is sold under many different brand names, including WD-40, PB Blaster, Liquid Wrench, and AiroKroil. This can be a little confusing, especially since brands like the WD-40 offer not only a true penetrating oil but also sell spray lithium or silicone lubricants. And some may be marketed as “multi-use” lubricants that supposedly can be used both for penetrating and other general-purpose lubrication. However, the best products for loosening nuts and bolts and other parts will specify themselves on the label as “penetrating” oils.