Screws won’t stay in wall!

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I’ve moved into a fairly newly built place and I can’t seem to put up curtain poles or blind brackets. The wall just seems to crumble? I have tried wall plugs but these only go in so far. The screw just spins and and doesn’t hold. I’ve never had this problem at any of my other places so any help would be great! I’ve added photo of curtain pole hole and how far I can get plug in for the blind bracket

q screws won t stay in wall
q screws won t stay in wall
q screws won t stay in wall
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  • Vimarhonor Vimarhonor on Oct 06, 2021

    Hello finding your studs or framing support structure under your wallboard would be suggested.

    Here’s a link that could be helpful.


    https://youtu.be/7yky9-EZt9s


  • William William on Oct 06, 2021

    Can't really tell by the photo but it doesn't look like drywall to me. I don't know if it's a fiberboard or a stucco finish applied directly over brick or concrete block. I would try drilling holes with a masonry drill bit. Drill a little deeper than the wall plugs. Another solution would be to use 3M Command hooks.

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    • Linda Linda on Oct 06, 2021

      I drilled once and found that the reason the screw didn't work was due to a cast iron drain in the wall coming from upstairs. Double check first ... there was a clean-out outside.

  • GrandmasHouseDIY GrandmasHouseDIY on Oct 06, 2021

    I agree with William with the trying to drill into to using a masonry bit to give you an idea of what you're dealing with. To me it looks like old plaster and lath which is nightmarish to try to hang things from - we had the same in this place before gutting it except for a couple of walls we just dry walled over. Hanging anything on those walls is always a bit of a challenge.

    • Ashleigh McKenna Ashleigh McKenna on Oct 06, 2021

      The place was only built in 2013 so I’m not sure what they have used! I will try drilling with a stronger drill and see if I can get through, I only need to hang this pole and one set of blinds the rest can all be stuck up with commands, such a nightmare! Thanks for your help

  • It may help if you put the screw into the stud. Otherwise, Command Hooks can support a lot of weight and won't damage the wall any further.

    • Ashleigh McKenna Ashleigh McKenna on Oct 06, 2021

      I was thinking hooks but worried about the weight of the pole and curtains, also the pole is very thick so might need a different one with the hooks. It’s looking like that might be my only option though, thanks for your message :)

  • Ashleigh McKenna Ashleigh McKenna on Oct 06, 2021

    This is the hole and wall plug from when I’ve tried to put the blind brackets up, I put these blinds all over my old place but these walls aren’t having it :(

  • Redcatcec Redcatcec on Oct 06, 2021

    Yes, use a masonry bit and go into the studs,

    I would hesitate to use Command Hooks, true they do not damage a wall, from experience I had bad luck with them. They bonded with the paint on the wall directly where they were attached, which was a better bond than the paint to the wall. Down the stuff came, even though the Command hooks were the right weight strength for the job.

    Your walls do not look like typical drywall,have you considered covering the walls with something like drywall or wainscoting?

    • Ashleigh McKenna Ashleigh McKenna on Oct 06, 2021

      I have a feeling this will be the same here as the wall is just peeling off or crumbling! I’ve been given a masonry drill so will try going into the studs! Thanks for your message :)

  • William William on Oct 06, 2021

    Use a masonry drill bit and drill through the concrete/brick/block. What ever is there. Regular drill bit will just get dull. Then insert the plug in there. 1/4" drill bit is usually standard size for plastic anchors. Start drilling slow so not to crumble the surface then you can speed up.

  • A masonry bit may be the answer, but, have you asked your neighbors about this? If all the houses were built by the same contractor, they may have some insight.

  • Ashleigh McKenna Ashleigh McKenna on Oct 06, 2021

    Everyone thank you so much !!! I know have curtains and blinds, you’ve all been very helpful it’s much appreciated :)

  • Dee Dee on Oct 06, 2021

    You could try Molly Bolts to use when hanging curtains. Or if all else fails get heavy Command Hooks. They can be painted to match your walls and will hold up drape rods.

  • if you can’t find studs to screw into, you can maybe try metal screw in wall anchors or Wall Dog screws.

  • Betsy Betsy on Oct 08, 2021

    Hi Ashleigh: Just a thought, maybe you are trying to drill into a nail head. Is it possible to move the hole up or down or side to side a bit? You can use a long thin nail to pound into the wall a bit to see if you are on a stud or not. You don't want to go drilling all over the place and making a mess in a fairly new home. Perhaps if you can contact the builder and ask them for advice, I'm sure they will be happy to help. You can also use long toggle/butterfly screws https://www.homedepot.com/s/toggle%2520screws?NCNI-5 to go into the wall.


    Good luck

  • Em Em on Oct 09, 2021

    Get a stud finder. All windows have to have a frame around them. So you may have to take the curtains to the NEXT stud out or use them close to the window into the wooden frame at the EDGE of the window.

  • Simple Nature Decor Simple Nature Decor on Oct 11, 2021

    You need anchors

  • Johnavallance82 Johnavallance82 on Oct 12, 2021

    Maybe they are not solid walls, only Stud partition wall.(Timber frame covered with Plasterboard. You would need to find the timber frames to screw into.

  • Agnes Chrzanowska Agnes Chrzanowska on Oct 31, 2021

    They need to be added to beams not sheetrock