Crawl space

Eroque022810
by Eroque022810
Has anyone had their crawl space floor cemented to help with the cold floor,and was it worth it and would you recommend this? We have had it insulated but that I would not recommend because you can't any difference. I've never had a home like this and the floor is so cold that the entire first floor is cold because it spands the entire home.
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  • Lynn Murphy-Picker Lynn Murphy-Picker on Jun 16, 2017

    We have actually been researching this issue because we also have a crawl space. We have found that there is a great need for the reflective wrap to be efficient. For crawl spaces, it is suggested that you use the bubble type foil.

    • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 16, 2017

      Well the inside was insulted as soon as we moved in so would this bubble type be for outside? It's the floor that's not finished it was left with just rocks which is common I want to know if I should bother with it because it is so costly. The insulation in my opinion was a waste of money it did nothing to increase warmth would never recommend.

  • Terri Pounds Terri Pounds on Jun 16, 2017

    Use 2 inch foam board insulation around interior block footer, apply using liquid nails, close off all vents in winter.

    • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 16, 2017

      Thanks but have already had it insulated and I did close vents but it's a year long cold that I feel.

  • Just Retired Just Retired on Jun 16, 2017

    We had a general contractor come and do ours with cement and are very happy with it a bit expensive but no longer any musty smells

    • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 16, 2017

      It doesn't smell I'm just cold all year long. The floor is carpeted where I spend my day and it's so cold to me. Did you notice a change in how house felt? Madison can get cold and much snow. I live down from you in northern Illinois.

  • William William on Jun 17, 2017

    Were the floor joists insulated? What kind of insulation and how thick insulation? I have a split level with a gravel crawl space under the living room and kitchen. I insulated the floor joists with two inch extruded foam board insulation and then fiberglass insulation to the height of the joists. Solved my cold floor problem. Concrete over the gravel is just convenience and has no insulating factor. Great for storage.

    • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 18, 2017

      I'll have to go down there and check for myself. But thank you,and let you know. William why do they insulate the ceiling joist?

  • Just Retired Just Retired on Jun 17, 2017

    Not particularly because our crawl space was in a try level and from the third floor you entered a room where the crawl space was. What I liked was no more smell and I was finally able to store thing in there then like Christmas decorations and nothing smelled musty after thar

    • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 18, 2017

      So "just retired " do you think that a floor poured down would or wouldn't help? It's a little unclear. You remind me of me. The third floor is usually on top level did you mean underground? I don't have any smells,strictly cold. I want to use money wisely. Insulation of the entire crawl space didn't do anything to help so to me a big waste of money. I can say that I had nothing to do with it all my husband. I'm more logical. A concrete floor just made more sense but my dear husband listened to his friend and so here we are,cold like before and out of that money. I just don't want to continue to waste money that at this point we don't have. I would find it even if it meant mac and cheese for the rest of the year, if I can find a way to make space warm. Or our only other choice is to move and that would be painful since we redid entire first floor. We have poured money into this home that I really love,but I had never lived in a home with a crawl space. So all this is new to us and all the information we can get I would help us decide in which direction we should go. I've already started looking for ranch homes that are newly built with basements and already insulated to our current codes. Thanks and I'll wait to hear from you.

  • William William on Jun 18, 2017

    Insulating between the floor joists in the crawl space is where the room floor above is. I also insulated ductwork that was in the crawl space. Concrete on the crawl space gravel and walls do nothing to insulate whats above. The vents actually should actually stay open all year round. The crawl space needs air movement or there is a chance of moisture getting trapped and mold growing on the joists and wood.

    • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 18, 2017

      William so does that means that the floor joist are the ceiling joist of crawl space. I'm not quite sure I understand. Our entire home the crawl space underneath it so if the floor joist had been insulated wouldn't that be the same as insulating the ceiling joist of the crawl space? The floor is on top of the ceiling of the space beneath so what's the difference? So even in northern Illinois I should leave vents open? Doesn't that just make my floors colder? I can understand why but I'm trying to make my floors warmer not colder. And living in Illinois you know how cold we get and the wind is brutal. I would really appreciate your expertise. We're you a contractor? You seem to know so much about everything.☺

  • William William on Jun 18, 2017

    I was a home builder, HVAC contractor, remodeler, etc. The crawl space joists and ceiling are the upper living quarters floor. Insulating the joists and ceiling in the crawl space you are insulating the main floor from the crawl space. The amount of air flowing through the crawl space vents is so minimal. They are there to keep the crawl space dry. Otherwise sudden temperature changes can trap moisture in the crawl and condensation would cause mold to grow. The thickness of the insulation in the crawl should equal the depth of the joists. That would give a R-19 insulated floor. Hope this helps.

    • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 19, 2017

      So William in your educated opinion is it a wise move to insulate these joists since the floor above it is cold, or not really. What would you do to best fix this problem? Remember we are talking about a lot of money,but it's an invest to me if I'm finally warm. I just want to do the right thing. And I do appreciate all the time you have taken with me. You are a book of knowledge on so many topics, and as a fellow from my state that is well aware of our weird temperature swings,I know I can trust you for advice. Thanks

  • Just Retired Just Retired on Jun 18, 2017

    Seriously I can relate to your situation. My hubby sounds like yours. My best advice to you would be contact a cement contractor and have him come over to the house to give you advice and an estimate. I can honestly tell you that living in a tri level has its challenges. The lowest level was always cold and the topest level was always extremely hot and that's because heat rises. We too spent a massive amount of money in remodeling and old house stuck in a 60's time warp . I too finally got sick of so much money going out. We built a ranch home and it's way better when it comes to comfort. I can't tell you what to do I can just tell you that your problem is often associated with tri levels . Good luck

    • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 19, 2017

      Normally I am the one who deals with everything . But since my husband had this done without my imput I left to him to deal with it, I guess you can say that I still after 34 years trust in God to change him. Yes I am looking at ranches now but would prefer to stay in this community, I found one but it's so out of our price range and I'm not talking about the extras they are adding. As a model home you know your home would never look that gorgeous or at least I know it and accept it,I'm talking about the base price starting out so steep. My husband should have retired 5 years ago but in this economy he has continued to work. So I just don't have the money to hire someone. William gave me great advice that I will do if we can't find a ranch home. I'm sure my husband would love that and so you don't wonder why I just don't get a job, I had one,but due to my epilepsy I had to leave. I don't think that I would had ever left it otherwise. OK thanks. But I will follow Williams advice first and last resort will be to concrete the entire area because it is large.

  • William William on Jun 19, 2017

    Since my crawl space is gravel and only three feet high. I spent a whole weekend on my back on cardboard insulating the joist space. As I stated. I used two in thick foam board first, then kraft faced fiberglass batts to fill the space. This gave me a R-19 insulating factor. This was under my living room and kitchen. About 25' by 35' area. No cold air to cool the living space floor.

  • Sharon Sharon on Jun 19, 2017

    This is the insulation to use below your floors, look at the video and you will see how its installed. Concrete won't make it warmer without insulation below the floor. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Reflectix-16-in-x-100-ft-Double-Reflective-Insulation-with-Staple-Tab-ST16100/202851859

  • William William on Jun 19, 2017

    Since my crawl is gravel and three feet high I spent a whole weekend on my back on a sheet of cardboard insulating the joist space. As I stated I first used 2" thick foam board then kraft faced fiberglass insulation to fill the joist space. This gave me a R-19 rating. No more cold air to cool the living room and kitchen floor. About a 25' by 35' area. I also insulated duct work with duct wrap and water pipes.

    • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 19, 2017

      Thank you William. I now can picture what we're trying to tell me. Ours is about 5 ft so me the shorty in the family will get this job. As long as I have someone keeping company,you'd think that the 4 men in the house would never let me do this,but if I want it done before I die I'll have to do it. It sounds like I should be able to handle it so it would save cost of labor. William I have a lot of joist to fill the entire home is undone. Wish me lick and God's to provide me the patience I will need with such a large area. You wouldn't want to donate sometime and come do this ,would you? HA HA HA I so appreciate your help you have no idea and William thank you for sharing your knowledge. May God bless you and your family.

  • Granny Granny on Jun 19, 2017

    Room size rugs or carpet would help whole in the heat. When you cement that crawl space...I would expect it to get mold over time because it will trap moisture ...Check with a mold specialist before you do that.

  • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jun 19, 2017

    I would just like to thank this community for taking the time with my problem. Thank you for having this site available.

  • William William on Jun 19, 2017

    Glad to help. Five feet. I would be able to sit and install. Wasn't fun laying on my back. Just make sure you wear gloves and eye protection. Take your time doing it and make sure you take some breaks. You don't need to do it all at once. If the four men are around show your determination and throw some indirect guilt at them. They may consider giving you a hand. Keep them updated on your progress. How the floors are going to be warm. How nice its going to be walking around and not have a chill going through the house. How cozy its going to be for everyone. How much it will save on the heating and cooling. Good luck.

  • Eroque022810 Eroque022810 on Jul 27, 2017

    Oh William you'reso funny. I'm the only one who is cold and some of it has to do with medication. I'll start with living and dining room ares since they are connected, and carpeted. Then continue with the rest of the house. I wS surprised because previous home was with basement but hubby didn't want to deal with sump pump any more. Anyway the house was better regulated as far as heating and cooling. And it wS 10yrs older. But it had a floor. I've never lived in a house like this so just learning and William you are great. It totally makes sense even the vent thing. This will only be our second winter here but I will leave vents open. I guess I have a lot of work to do. Hubby should do it since he didn't want a basement, right,don't you agree. It just seems like if these 4 men did it,it would go faster. OK guilt trip will be used.