Paint or Gel Stain?

Susan
by Susan
Hello! I could really use your help. I bought this record player console the other day thinking it was all wood. My plan was to use the dark gel stain on top and paint everything else a cream/whiteish color, exactly as the photo shows. I soon realized that it was veneer with particle board underneath it all (see the particle board in photo). I'm sure the entire thing must be veneer. I have already begun sanding, which is the mess you are seeing on the top. I don't think I am going to be able to make this the way I wanted am I? With the gel stain, the wood grain shows through, which is exactly what I love about the gel. Any ideas how to make this the way the photo shows?
Thank you for any help you are able to give me.
Susan
Top of record player console. See the chip, top right corner, I made to check to see if it was veneer? That's the particle board under it.
The front of the record player console. I started sanding it too.
The side
This gal did a great job! This is exactly the look I am going for with the grain showing through the gel a bit.
  12 answers
  • Sharon Sharon on Sep 04, 2017

    I would try just lightly sanding the water marks on top, add a bit of wood conditioner, and stain it dark. Then I would prime the lower part and paint it, you could then distress with a bit of sanding on the edges of the relief areas.

  • Fix It Jen Fix It Jen on Sep 04, 2017

    I feel your pain about the veneer! I've restored a bench similar to yours that was veneer in even worse shape; I used Behr semi-transparent deck stain (from Home Depot) and it came out amazing! It has pigment in it that actually mimics wood lines as you brush, so it covers the bad spots but still is a little see-thru so you don't completely cover the wood grain. I used the "coffee" color and it was pretty close to your inspiration photo.

  • B. Enne B. Enne on Sep 04, 2017

    Old Masters gel stain has worked for me on laminate and veneer. I just clean it up with steel wool and deglosser/liquid sandpaper and then wipe off the residue with an old damp towel, and let it dry well. I rub the gel stain on evenly with an old sock over plastic gloves. If you are worried, try it on the inside of the cabinet until you get the hang of it. You may need to put a protective poly top coat on it.

    • Susan Susan on Sep 05, 2017

      B. Enne, thank you for your reply. I really wanted to use gel stain, but all we have around here is a Lowes so I had to buy regular stain. Fingers crossed that this project turns out like my inspiration photo.

  • Beth Stern Beth Stern on Sep 04, 2017

    Chalk paint to the rescue. Can go on any surface without prep. Then put the wax on top to give it a shine.

    • Susan Susan on Sep 05, 2017

      Thanks, Beth. I have to use regular stain this time. My Lowes didn't have chalk paint so I'm hoping this turns out well.

  • Hillela G. Hillela G. on Sep 05, 2017

    I agree with Beth, Chalk paint is amazing in these cases- I can't wait to see how it comes out. We're rooting for you!!

    • Susan Susan on Sep 05, 2017

      Hillela,


      ''Thanks so much for that! I will definitely post the after photos.

  • Susan Susan on Sep 05, 2017

    You ladies are awesome! Thanks so much! One more question for you...I have had trouble with bleed through before. In the past I have used the paint on primer to cover dark wood then I painted it with white latex paint, only to have the dark wood show through the paint in spots...made it a yellowish color too. What primer do you suggest to use to really really seal it up? I don't ever want that to happen again.


    Thanks again!

    Susan

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    • Susan Susan on Sep 07, 2017

      Thank you, Leesa. I will let you know how it turns out.

  • Colimbia1 Colimbia1 on Sep 05, 2017

    I have a desk that the veneer on the sides has come off. I appreciate that this question was asked and received some good ideas about what to do with it. Thanks!

    • Susan Susan on Sep 05, 2017

      Columbia1,

      Veneer sort of scared me, I've worked with it before, but so many great ideas from everyone!

  • Leesa Osborne Leesa Osborne on Sep 05, 2017

    are you sure it's particle board? I can't tell in the photos. my easiest way to determine particle board is flipping the furniture piece upside down and looking at the bottom.

  • Leesa Osborne Leesa Osborne on Sep 05, 2017

    ive had pieces with peeling veneer with the wood underneath being beautiful is why I'm asking if your positive it's particle board.

    • Susan Susan on Sep 05, 2017

      It's definitely particle board. I've removed veneer before and like you said, there was some beautiful wood under it. Unfortunatley, not this time.

  • B. Enne B. Enne on Sep 05, 2017

    Good luck!

  • Leesa Osborne Leesa Osborne on Sep 06, 2017

    Have you ever tried the rust oleum glaze? I absolutely love the java and use it a lot on particle wood , real wood and old fencing. I don't wipe it off I just keep adding more coats. Maybe consider a cream chalk paint or even make your own. Chalk paint covers everything. It's awesome

    • Susan Susan on Sep 06, 2017

      No I haven't. It's such a pain because we don't have much in the way of shopping where I live. I had to take what Lowes had this time. I read somewhere where a person primered a piece white furniture and then put Espresso stain over it. Have you ever seen this before?

  • Susan Susan on Sep 09, 2017

    The saga goes on. I primed the console with possibly the worst primer I have ever used before. It said it would cover everything I needed it to and after two coats there was bleed through. Also, it was very watery. I initially bought Furniture Paint from Lowes for all around the console. I put two coats on the area that there was bleed through and could still see it. In addition, the paint said it would not give me brush strokes and of course it did. It goes back to Lowes today and I might use Milk Paint that I found at a little shop near my town. I'm thinking a light green color would look nice with the Java Gel top. That same shop sells Java Gel too so I put that down on the top of the console and it looks fantastic!


    This project might take a little longer than I anticipated. While I was trying to lay down primer yesterday, I rested my hand on the inside of the my 1960's record player console and it fell through to the bottom. Yes, the bottom dropped out! Along with that was the radio and the 8 track tape player that was attached to it. Good times. So now I am forced to get the husband involved to basically manufacture a new bottom for those three things to fit into. Kinda wanted to keep him out of this, but I'm not great at woodworking and he is so.. My goal for today is to get his butt moving to work on the new bottom and for me to paint the console. Does Milk Paint require two coats over white primer?