Good bug or bad?

Vetsy
by Vetsy
Can someone please identify these bugs.. They look like baby praying Mantis but they are so tiny I can't really tell... I don't have a High powered camera so you will have to click on the photo to see them close-up. Thank you.
What are these? I discovered these on my Lady banks rose this afternoon.
  16 answers
  • Jennie Wojtaszek Jennie Wojtaszek on Jun 04, 2014
    I have seen these too! On my maple tree! They are very strange but I also have no idea what they are!
  • Bobbie M Bobbie M on Jun 04, 2014
    they are praying mantis good bug
  • Tudyrunningwater Tudyrunningwater on Jun 04, 2014
    yes, they are Praying Mantis'... very good bugs... :-)
  • Julia Kurtz Julia Kurtz on Jun 04, 2014
    They are Assassin Bugs ~ good bugs. They eat a lot of other bugs, but can bite if handled. Some call them Wheel Bugs. There are many different varieties and colors. the egg case is a clear indication that they are not praying mantis.
    • Vetsy Vetsy on Jun 04, 2014
      @Julia Kurtz I did more research online and yes i have discovered as you pointed out that there are several species of the Assassin bug. The green one is the specie Zelus luridus. Thank you..
  • Valerie Valerie on Jun 04, 2014
    They look like praying mantis to me. I found the following interesting link: http://www.gardeninsects.com/prayingMantis.asp But perhaps Julia is right, I am not an expert.
  • Vetsy Vetsy on Jun 04, 2014
    Thanks for the answers, but I'm still hoping for more ideas. My sister as well feel that they are baby praying mantis.... I did a photo search online and noticed that the nest of praying mantis is shaped more like a cocoon or like a wasp nest... Also the babies I saw online and youtube look much larger.. The nest in my photo is very small and so are the bugs.... I took another look at the photo and they also remind me of Stick bugs, I did a search on the Assassin bug, it looks nothing like the bugs in my photo...The bugs look closer to a praying mantis or a stick bug.... to my eye..
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    • Vetsy Vetsy on Jun 05, 2014
      @Julia Kurtz Julia I'm still interested in what happened after you shared my photo on your Entomology page...I'm just curious even though now I believe you are correct....... for the fun of it I'd just like to now what transpired..
  • Vetsy Vetsy on Jun 04, 2014
    Thank you..
  • Chris aka monkey Chris aka monkey on Jun 04, 2014
    Help answer this wheel bugs - Google Searchquestion...
  • Chris aka monkey Chris aka monkey on Jun 04, 2014
    julia is right do a google search on wheel bugs and just look at images xx
  • Connie S Connie S on Jun 04, 2014
    I agree, wheel bugs!
  • Vetsy Vetsy on Jun 04, 2014
    I searched again.... and here's a description of what I found on the net about what baby Wheel bugs look like.... in the fall, the female wheel bug lays her eggs on small twigs of shrubs and trees. There are several dozen of these barrel-shaped eggs in a cluster. In the early spring, the eggs hatch and small ( RED and BLACK nymphs) with long legs disperse onto surrounding trees and shrubs. Homeowners may see these on various trees or landscape shrubs. The bugs in my photo are GREEN.
  • Shari Veater Shari Veater on Jun 04, 2014
    catch one in a jar with lid and take to a local high school...a biology teacher would be happy to take a look...I think it is a praying mantis....they loved to be in my rose garden :)
    • Vetsy Vetsy on Jun 04, 2014
      @Shari Veater Thank you shari...I went to take another look at them this morning but now I can't find them..
  • April E April E on Jun 04, 2014
    they are very young mantis however i cannot recall which species they are as their are over 2400 different varieties in this family and each lay different kinds of egg sac however many of the young look quite similar while others vary greatly. i would not take this to the high school bio teacher but to a local ag college entomology department and they would be of great help as would a ag extension as they could send them off to a college also mantea do not always stay where they hatch but move on looking for food
  • Barbara Turner Barbara Turner on Jun 04, 2014
    My cousins and I used to play with Praying mantis when we were kids - these are NOT praying Mantis insects. Their bodies are much thicker and longer and their heads are triangle shaped. These are NOT those! Here's a link for the Praying Mantis AND it's counterpart the Flying mantis. Note the head shape. http://www.hsu.edu/pictures.aspx?id=2482 --------------------------------------------------------------- THIS is the Assassin bug - they are not this bug up in the picture either. https://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv1-tyc9&p=assassin%20bugs&type= -------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a chart of plants and insects http://www.limegreennews.com/beneficial_insects.html
  • Grace Gleason Grace Gleason on Jun 04, 2014
    Praying mantises are NOT all good bugs. They are non-selective in their eating habits, and will eat good as well as bad buts. The large ones are also known to eat hummingbirds. They are not welcome in my garden.
    • Vetsy Vetsy on Jun 05, 2014
      @Grace Gleason I saw a photo on the net and on youtube of a praying mantis eating a hummingbird and I was mortified!! I love the hummers more! if I found a Mantis it would have to go! I would catch it an release it miles away from my home.
  • Vetsy Vetsy on Jun 04, 2014
    Thank you all so much for your input.... I now believe that I am dealing with an assassin bug ( Thank you Julia kurtz ) after I've researched it some more. here is a photo I found on the net of the green Assassin bug.... Zelus luridus.
    • Catherine Smith Catherine Smith on Jun 05, 2014
      @Vetsy Lucky you. Assassin bugs are great to encourage as they feed on aphids and other plant pests.