Valdosta, GA on Jun 29, 2012

Painting a Wall, after removing the wall paper...

I'm removing wall paper from my kitchen wall. I plan to paint the walls, and then add a rail of sorts so the chairs around the kitchen table won't bump into the wall. I'm not sure what kind of paint was on the wall before my parents added the paper, but I think it might be a semi oil based paint, anyway, is there anything special I need to do to the wall, other than the usual, filling in the holes, smoothing it, making sure all the glue and paper is removed, before add a flat paint ????

I appreciate anyone's suggestions :)....thank you ;)

17 Comments

Woodbridge Environmental ... Colonia, NJ

Any time an oil based paint is used you must prep it correctly or the new paint will peel.
You need to degloss the finish. A good sanding with a 220 grit paper is a good thing to do. Follow by a good cleaning with TSP or any other de-glossing chemical.
However, you must understand if the paint is fairly old. pre 1976 it could contain lead. And sanding lead based paint is not very healthy. So before you start any sanding purchase lead base ...»
testing sticks at the paint store or big box store and test. If lead is present, Then you still can sand, but take the proper precaution and keep kids out of the room and clean up real well using damp rags and a HEPA vacuum to clean up.
If you want to forgo the sanding to degloss, then just use the chemicals to dull the paint finish. This will allow the new paint primer to bite into the old finish and prevent peeling.

on Jun 30, 2012 · Like 0
Jean M Valdosta, GA

thank you so much. The wall looks to be to be rough looking, it's not shiny, and I'm supposing its from the glue that on the wallpaper when my parents put it up. I'm thinking that the paint probably did have lead in it, since I can't really remember when they put the paper on. The wall though like I said looks dull, and I'm not sure if they used a semi gloss on the wall; like I know they used a semi gloss on the cabinets. Does Lowes carry those lead base testing sticks I wonder?...What ...»
kind of de-gloss chemical would you recommend--not too expensive but not one that won't do the job?....thanks Woodbridge :)

on Jun 30, 2012 · Like 0
Woodbridge Environmental ... Colonia, NJ

Yes lowe's should carry the lead test kit.
As far a brand, Just ask the paint person there as there are several types and they all pretty much work the same.
Good Luck!

on Jun 30, 2012 · Like 0
Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA

After cleaning, If the wall is not glossy, you won't need to sand or degloss, just prime with a good quality acrylic primer like the readily available Zinzer1-2-3. Good quality primers and paints stick to oil base paints well.
Best, Charles

on Jun 30, 2012 · Like 1
Jean M Valdosta, GA

right now, the wall under the paper I've removed so far doesn't look glossy to me. Just got the first layer of the wallpaper off, next is the paper now. It came off fairly easily in one area, so I hope it's the same all over. Thanks so much, Woodbridge and Peace Painting ;), really appreciate your assistance.

on Jun 30, 2012 · Like 0
Jean M Valdosta, GA

semi gloss on the wall; will need to prime the wall before placing latex paint, ahhhhhhh, well that's after I get the wall paper off :)...ugh :)

on Jul 04, 2012 · Like 0
Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA

That's probably a good idea.
If you are using darker colors, the primer can be tinted so that the finish paint covers in fewer coats.
Top line paints like Duration Emerald are made to stick to oil paint that has been deglossed with sandpaper or chemicals, and it's on sale now.
CP

on Jul 05, 2012 · Like 1
Jean M Valdosta, GA

thank you Peace painting. I hope to have the lower layer removed in 2 weeks, I hope and then I'll have a look at the next layer...I'm using a lighter color, mid yellow or a lighter green; the wallpaper that was on the wall was a printed, plastic coated wallpaper, so, I've removed the plastic coating so far, next is the paper/glue layer. I hope to have it done soon. What do you think about Bayer or Bear...the paint that is suppose to be able to use on paints without a primer?????
thank you

on Jul 05, 2012 · Like 0
Jean M Valdosta, GA

starting my next adventure, my kitchen. Finishing up the ceiling this am, and then onto the walls; after that is the trim/doors/cabinets and then after that, painting pet boards, and a chair rail to go on the wall. I think I've bitten off more than I can chew, but I think I can get it done this week, hopefully :)

on Aug 06, 2012 · Like 0
Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA

That's great Jean. You've got great vision and stick-to-it-ness. You'll knock it out one step at a time.
Please excuse me for missing your last question about the paint and primer in one. It's probably a moot point now, but that is not a quality product, it cannot do both things well.
Best, Charles

on Aug 06, 2012 · Like 1
Jean M Valdosta, GA

thanks Peace P....LOL, I'm trying to remember to take pictures during the process, and its a complete mess on my floor, drop cloths have helped some, but not a lot. My hope is to get my floor done after everything is painted.

on Aug 07, 2012 · Like 0
Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA

That's the right order of things, floor last, and then just touch up the base boards.

on Aug 07, 2012 · Like 1
Jean M Valdosta, GA

Now am starting on my cabinets, and hopefully painting the peg board to match the wall, then hanging it on the wall behind my stove :), well, that's the plan atleast, I'll probably just get the cabinets, upper and lower, done today, and maybe the peg board, let it dry and then hang it tomorrow....my eyes are bigger than my ?????, stomach won't work here, but you get the idea :)

on Aug 08, 2012 · Like 0
Peace Painting Co., Inc. Alpharetta, GA

When painting the pegboard, you can use what's called a foam flock roller that gets the sides of the holes painted without leaving any drips coming out.

on Aug 08, 2012 · Like 1
Jean M Valdosta, GA

thanks so much for the idea, Peace :)...I'll go and see if I can buy one since I Have to take back the handles I thought would fit the cabinets dont' :(, Murphy, Murphy Murphy, if anything will go wrong, it will :)....I misjudged measuring the hole lengths :(. They aren't 3 inches wide as I thought, just a hair off by what looks like 1/4....I'll take a piece of paper, and make myself a copy of them and take them to the store.

on Aug 09, 2012 · Like 0
Woodbridge Environmental ... Colonia, NJ

That is odd Jean. Normally handle widths are standard.

on Aug 09, 2012 · Like 0
Jean M Valdosta, GA

LOL, not in this house, the handles were just less than 3 inches from screw to screw, I don't get it either, So, I did the next best thing, all the upper cabinets got a new single silver knob handle, and one of the holes was filled in. The drawers will receive 2 new silver knob handles, since their holes run horizontally, and one knob looks off set and strange. I'm weird, what can I say. Oh, got the rail up for the chairs, looks pretty good for my first job; I need to learn and will learn ...»
how to miter corners...and the wall bows, what's new, so there is a 1/4 inch gap in the middle of the longest board.....any suggestions as to how to fill in the gap or should I just leave it that way. I tried hammering a nail, but it won't hold since I can't really tell how the beams run in the wall; The beams look like they run vertically,
So, i'm almost done, except for hanging some stuff back up on the walls, touching up the rails and walls, oh, and cleaning up my floor to a somewhat presentable look, I can honestly say, if the cabinets ever need a new paint job, the lower cabinets will not receive it, instead, I will be replacing the lower cabinets with NEW ones, and they won't be needing a paint job PERIOD. (LOL).

on Aug 10, 2012 · Like 0

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