Attic entrance is a hazard

This enyrance into the Attic is very annoying. As we become older, it is going to become an impossible task. I would love to put steps here that also had drawers in them. However, under them is a void space ,so how do you add structure to keep the steps strong and solid?
Upon purchasing the house when you open this door, you would have been immediately met by a set of shelves, as soon as you enter the door. Apparently the owner at the age of 93-94 no longer was able to access this area so it was basically blocked off. In the event that someone else had to go into the attic the shelves would have been easily just pull down to access the area.
I repainted the area and put the shelves alongside the wall for storage.
This is the area directly under the attic entrance which leads to the garage. So I'm thinking if we built stairs, how would you make sure they're supported being that they would not be grounded. This is where I need help.
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  • Sharon Sharon on Feb 23, 2018

    You're going to need a carpenter for this, to cut stringers for the stairs, and add the treads, and then to build runners for the drawers to fit into the area where the risers would be, and then to make the drawers.

  • Larry shriver Larry shriver on Feb 23, 2018

    What I would suggest is a safer solution that your current situation. You can buy kits which include folding stairs that, when collapsed, fit entirely into your attic. They have regular stair treads, which would prevent your possibly sliding off the " treads " on your current stairs. If I remember correctly. they are sized to fit within the normal 16-inch spacing of your ceiling joists, so you wouldn't need to cut any joists. You could remove your current " stairs ", and buy yourself some of that adjustable wire shelving like the department stores use for clothing displays, and get the type that comes with casters included. Then whenever you needed access to the attic, you just roll your shelving rack out of the way, and climb your "stairway to heaven". LOL Good Luck


    • Nayshunda O Burke Nayshunda O Burke on Feb 23, 2018

      you completely lost me. Okay so you said roll the rack out of the way so that I can get up there? I don't have a rack that moves. As you see from the picture that's all that is there. When you say get the shelves that close that collapse I mean the stairs that collapse you mean have them to fold up into the attic and then when I need to use the Attic put them down over the current existing ramp? I'm completely confused and not sure if you were looking at the pictures correctly. There is no way to put collapsible stairs that come from the ceiling in this area because of how the attic is made and also because there is a attic fan up there. This attic looks like it was always made to be able to walk up or wrap up into this area. House was built in 1957 or 1960 I bought the house from the owner at age would 93-94

  • Mary Mary on Feb 23, 2018

    Fold away staircase definitely the best and safest answer Also have light switch installed close to area that operates fixture in attic which can be easily turned on before assent and off after descent

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    • Mary Mary on Feb 23, 2018

      I was thinking of the attic as above you But is it something that you enter into as a side door or upper opening on-the wall( you are already upstairs and enter into parts of attic thru closet or something that)

  • Mme18579596 Mme18579596 on Feb 23, 2018

    The only way I see to add anything there is to add structural beams in the garage entrance so you have support. If you chose not to do that you can add half treads to the top of the board as opposed to the slips that are there. You would not be able to add any storage under them unless you used the entire space though.

  • Lisa S. Lisa S. on Feb 23, 2018

    Can you add a pull down stairway in a hallway or another room. In my neighborhood a lot of folks (me included) have just placed them in the upstairs hall way. Plenty of room to unfold the staircase. When you are done, it just folds up. Cannot be left down. You just see the outline of a rectangle in the ceiling. No big deal. Otherwise, we had a set up like you do, inside a bedroom closet. Just did not workout for Christmas decorations and such. I have a relative who ended up putting one in the ceiling of an extra bath - just the only place it would fit.

  • Alberta Coulter Alberta Coulter on Feb 23, 2018

    I think maybe no one is looking at this the right way. The attic door is on the wall, not the ceiling and the ramp is how you enter. If there is no floor under the ramp, you will need to put one in or have one put in. Lowes has premade stair runners you can buy to make 2, 3 or 4 steps, maybe more. You would need to get two runners in the size you need and boards for the steps. They are a standard size, maybe 18 inches wide. I think maybe you should try to find a carpenter to help you figure out what you need, since you will apparently need a floor put in under the stairs. putting drawers in can be tricky too.

  • Larry shriver Larry shriver on Feb 23, 2018

    O k, maybe I can help you straighten this out......When I mentioned a rack, I meant one you purchase from a place like Target, etc. The rack would REPLACE THE SHELVING you have on the wall. They are available with casters, so you can roll them wherever you need to move it to. You would REMOVE THE EXISTING RAMP, and install the folding stairs in it's place to allow you access into the attic. The stairs fold up, with everything going up into the attic, and being hidden, when not being used. With the rolling rack; whenever you needed to access the attic, you could roll the rack out of the way so that you have plenty of room to use the stairs . I hope maybe this makes it a little clearer. An attic fan would not make any difference about your access. Any other questions, I'm here for ya.

    • Nayshunda O Burke Nayshunda O Burke on Feb 23, 2018

      Ok, that was clear. So when removing the ramp there is a big void so i'd need a carpenter to build a floor there. Just afraid not enough support right there. Thank you!

  • Larry shriver Larry shriver on Feb 23, 2018

    O K, I just read Alberta's response........if the access hole is in a vertical wall, that is entirely different than what I pictured. In that case, I would put down a sheet of plywood after removing your current ramp, and thereby covering the floor where there is nothing. That way, you could store boxes and other items where the ramp had been. A folding stairs could be installed in a hallway, or some other room in the house, to enable you to access the attic. And a rack on casters would give you additional shelving capacity to store off-season clothing, Christmas decorations, etc. Hope this helps.

    • Nayshunda O Burke Nayshunda O Burke on Feb 23, 2018

      Yeah, that makes more sense, most people were missing the point that once the ramp is removed, there is big hole that would drop down into the garage step ceiling. Thanks a bunch.

  • Rosy Rosy on Feb 23, 2018

    Why don't you call a carpenter and have them come out and take a look and give you some ideas and maybe an estimate. You want to make a safe improvement.

  • Larry shriver Larry shriver on Feb 23, 2018

    The floor joists which are under the rest of your closet, would be the same size as all of the joists, are under your current ramp, and should be sufficient without adding anything else for reinforcement. If you hire a carpenter, he would be able to determine if additional support was needed.

    • Nayshunda O Burke Nayshunda O Burke on Feb 23, 2018

      Ok, wasn't thinking about floor joist running all the way thru. I hope that's the case and then the steps have some sort of foundation to stand on. I hate they built this attic entrance like this in the first place. Now this makes sense to me; however, I'll get a contractor to do it. I've DIY'd steps before from ground to deck but was able to have a center support that was touching the ground so the attic center support will touch the joist. Thank you, I can visualize this now to get my steps with drawer inserts.