What size stained glass pieces give the most stability?

I haven’t yet drawn the individual glass pieces on my pattern. What size glass pieces would give the piece the most strength and stability? It will be 2’x4’.
q what size stained glass pieces give the most stability
q what size stained glass pieces give the most stability
  7 answers
  • Nancy Turner Nancy Turner on Feb 08, 2018
    I don't know if the size of the glass pieces makes that much difference, it is more how they are attached to the glass and what you fill it in with that will stabilize it.
  • William William on Feb 08, 2018
    How about using stained glass paint and paint the stain glass pattern.
  • Sharon Sharon on Feb 08, 2018
    Its the metal that goes around each piece of glass and then the leading that gives it stability in stain glassing.
  • Melbrooks Melbrooks on Feb 09, 2018
    For a piece that size youll need to add some reinforcement strips inbetween the pieces. Also, from your pattern, it would be best if you add a seam from the mountain to the top so it stabilizes it vertically.
    If you are framing it in metal before you put it up, you can probably get away without that.
    • Donna Lee Scott Thomas Donna Lee Scott Thomas on Feb 12, 2018
      Thank you, Melbrooks. I plan to frame it, but I will have to transport it 1000+ miles, so I need to make it as stable as possible. Since I am still deciding where to put lead lines, I can’t thank you enough for our timely advice!
  • Pam Walker Pam Walker on Feb 09, 2018
    Glass paints & your drawing will save you a ton of money. Tape your drawing up on the outside of the glass. Go back inside & using the black, trace your drawing. Using glass paints, fill in the colors. Remove the drawing. Let it dry overnight. Once dried, it will keep for a very long time. If you wanted to create a more detailed landscape, you can use a real picture & blend your colors. It's easily removable too if you ever wanna change up the scene by simply peeling it off the glass. Glass paints can also be used on mirrors, door panels with glass or plastic & clear cd & dvd disks to create suncatchers.
  • Tillie Smith O'Kelley Tillie Smith O'Kelley on Feb 09, 2018
    your pattern is really nice, but it is just begging to bending and fold and be unstable. Your long horizontal lines, while beautiful, are basically hinge points. You need to break them up, however minutely. You also need, as Melbrooks said, to put a line, or a couple of lines from the mountain tops to the edge, and add reinforcement line or rebar (either or both) throughout the panel. I am a stained glass artist and designer/instructor, so I'm not just blowing smoke. The size of the pieces does not determine stability or strength....that is determined by the design and how it is put together. Depending on reinforcement used, copper foil and solder is just as stable and strong as lead and putty. i just completed and installed an 8' x 3' window using copper foil and solder and lots of copper restrip and rebar. It withstood a direct hit by Hurricane Irma. It also had over 1500 pieces.

    • Donna Lee Scott Thomas Donna Lee Scott Thomas on Feb 12, 2018
      Tillie, thank you for sharing your professional knowledge with me. If we were in the same region, I would definitely take your classes!
      I posted my question before deciding where to put the lead lines, and I’m so glad I did! The long diagonal lines of the hills should make it relatively easy to add restrip. I had already been drawing vertical rock erosion lines on the rock face and layers below—perfect for the vertical restrip! Thank you again for your advice!
  • Tillie Smith O'Kelley Tillie Smith O'Kelley on Feb 12, 2018
    you are very welcome, Donna. Glad I could help. Just noticed that you live in SA. I have family there. I'd love to see the panel when you finish it.
    • Donna Lee Scott Thomas Donna Lee Scott Thomas on Feb 12, 2018
      Small world! Do you visit SA often?
      Tillie, when I finish this project, I will be posting pictures of it on Facebook with lots of happy emoticons! I sent you a friend request, so you will be able to see it. Don’t hold your breath, though. I’m still at the read-a-lot-then-take-a-baby-step stage.
      I’d love to see more of your works. I saw the cocker spaniel and the lovely tulips you made! Beautiful!
      I also studied several other works of stained glass, paying particular attention to the placement of lead lines and possibly restrip. Thanks again for your advice!