Need a rustic but sturdy grape arbor

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Does anyone have some ideas for a rustic, but sturdy grape arbor that would be large enough for three Concord grape vines? It needs to be free-standing because the previous one allowed the vine to climb about 35 feet to the top of my barn, too high up to pick the Concord grapes.
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  • Carol Carol on Jun 27, 2016
    Hello Mrs. Sodermark, while I don't have a grape arbor, I lived in an Italian neighbourhood and they use pipe. Some spray paint flat black and some silver. I believe they are using Rustoleum.

  • Pauline Sodermark Pauline Sodermark on Jun 28, 2016
    Is this pipe you're referring to PVC or metal pipe? Either way they must have to anchor it in concrete in some manner. I need a picture! :-)

  • Barbara Barbara on Jun 29, 2016
    use a wood pallet

    • Pauline Sodermark Pauline Sodermark on Jun 29, 2016
      Do you mean teepee multiple wood pallets? These three grape vine plants have 2 inch wooden stalks like little tree trunks and new growth comes from them. Trying to picture how free standing pallets would be placed. Need a little more info on the pallet use.

  • Sue Kiene Sue Kiene on Jun 29, 2016
    there are all kinds of things that can be used for trellises--old metal beds, gates, pallets, some of the privacy fence sections, a metal or wood swing set frame, maybe a set of bed springs. All kinds of things can be used. Imagination is a good thing.

    • Pauline Sodermark Pauline Sodermark on Jun 29, 2016
      Evidently my imagination is missing of how these will continue to stay upright on their own. I cannot have the vines growing 3.5 to 4 stories high on my barn which is why the contrivance has to be free standing as far away from the barn as possible. I'm single "orphan" at 75 so whatever I do has to be done by an old woman. :-)

  • G-m5274252 G-m5274252 on Jun 29, 2016
    PVC pipe is perfect for this. You can use T joints to put extra top pipes in to support the vines overhead. We used a model like a kids swing set for the ends. Easy and cheap. You can also disassemble it when you are done!

    • Pauline Sodermark Pauline Sodermark on Jun 29, 2016
      Believe me, these Concord grapes will never be done doing their thing. Cut to the ground and on no arbor they are still climbing up my barn which is 3.5 to 4 stories high. Trying to figure how the climbing tentacles will grip plastic. Thanks for another idea!

  • Tina Tina on Jun 29, 2016
    pallet, and you can buy "canopy weights" to anchor to cement. OR put the ends of whatever material you chose to use, pallet or pvc pipe, into planters, pour cement into the bottom of planters, follow with sand, soil, then flowers!

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    • Sue Kiene Sue Kiene on Jun 30, 2016
      Again you need a vertical. Regarding your comment about how the vine will grip plastic, with training for them they can grow pretty much anywhere. You could always add a little jute twine and loosely wrap the pipe or use the larger pipe that has drainage holes in it.

  • Sue Kiene Sue Kiene on Jun 29, 2016
    95% of all trellises are not completely free-standing. There is a post or pole or something of the sort that is buried in the ground which supports the actual trellis. Why not just put upright 2 rail fence posts in the ground in a row about 8 foot apart and string wire between them. I would suggest at least 2 levels of wire. A vine will not go completely horizontal unless something is holding it up. In your case it is the barn. Take what is going up the barn and run it along the newly made fence-line. It will then be at an acceptable level for picking and should do just fine. So if the vine is about 35 foot up you are going to probably need at least 4 fence posts. Use a heavy gauge of wire for the horizontals between the posts. You should probably get some heavy duty zip ties to attach the vine til it is used to growing there. If you do not want to use wire then I would suggest metal pipe. Paint it black or a rustic brown or green about the color of the grape leaves.

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    • Sue Kiene Sue Kiene on Jun 30, 2016
      Contact your local high school or college. For the high school, ask for the FFA director. If they do not have that ask for the Honor Society director. Both of these would probably get you some good kids to help you in the project and would cost you next to nothing but materials and maybe some snacks and drinks. Honor Society students need to put in so many hours, for free, per year to be in it. If there is a local college, I am sure there is probably a horticultural department/agricultural department. They I am sure would be interested in assisting you and would probably love to see a grape vine that goes 35 foot up a barn. I do not think I would want to dig them up, I would just want to get them retrained as to where they need to go.

  • Tina Tina on Jun 29, 2016
    a very good source is "1001 pallets.com" they can help you with step-by step instructions and pictures

  • Barbara Barbara on Jun 30, 2016
    I would zip tie the 3 at the corners, place plants in front of each pallet .They should be balanced to stand up. You could also balance against a fence and zip tie for strength

    • Pauline Sodermark Pauline Sodermark on Jun 30, 2016
      Thank You Barbara. Although I live on an old farm, there are no fences left. Think that post hole digging is too much for a 75 yrs old and I have no help so I'm giving up in defeat. Thanks for your help.

  • Barbara Barbara on Jun 30, 2016
    I think the three pallets would balance together if zip tied together, I would not dig post holes, you could attach copper pipes or rebar to pallets and sink into the ground